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So have any FFL's here shipped under the new UPS rules?

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November 05, 2022, 06:26 AM
benny6
So have any FFL's here shipped under the new UPS rules?
Or have you just been doing things as if you didn't hear about any changes? How's FedEx these days? I shipped a rifle this week through USPS but man, the rates were way higher than I expected.

Tony.


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November 05, 2022, 07:21 AM
Sig2340
Yes, but I saw zero difference then to now.

As for prices, higher transport prices is good for the economy, right? Even though it adds nothing to the value or utility of the item?

Great job, President Biden.

You fucking putz.





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Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
November 05, 2022, 09:52 AM
radioman
quote:
the rates were way higher than I expected.


'bout how much? if I may ask....


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November 05, 2022, 10:06 AM
Sig2340
Shipping across the carriers is way up. Why? Priced diesel recently? It was $5.45.9 here yesterday.





Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
November 05, 2022, 10:42 AM
Black92LX
What are the changes when did they come into play?

Shipped a few last week just as I have in the past and received many more with no discernible difference.


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November 05, 2022, 10:53 AM
benny6
I shipped a 16# box, 36"x10"x10" from Florida to NY and it cost $150 with $4,000 insurance.

I remember shipping 20-25 pound boxes over 4 feet long across the country for maybe $130.

It costs me nothing, but I feel for my customers.

So is it true that the new agreement grants them access to your customer info, almost as much as an ATF inspection of your books? Or was that an overblown issue? I never received a notice from UPS about a new contract for FFL's, but then again, I've never told them I was a FFL.

Tony.


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November 05, 2022, 01:08 PM
Lord Vaalic
So is the only way to ship a pistol now though an FFL?




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November 05, 2022, 02:40 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
So is the only way to ship a pistol now though an FFL?


Yep. USPS won't ship handguns for non-FFLs, which has been the rule for a while. And starting just recently, UPS/FedEx will now only ship guns for a FFL.

But a non-FFL can still utilize a prepaid shipping label sourced through a FFL, like through ShipMyGun, or a RMA from the manufacturer for service.
November 05, 2022, 06:52 PM
sunburn
Look into Pirateship for lower shipping rates.


Lick the lollipop of mediocrity once and you suck forever.
November 06, 2022, 06:49 AM
sigmoid
I went to ups to return a scope to seller, when asked contents, I replied, "rifle scope"
Nope, can't ship it she says, new rules, no firearm parts. I say it's a telescope that could be mounted on my fucking steering wheel for that matter.
She was hung up on the WORD; rifle.
I don't even recognize my country any more?




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November 06, 2022, 07:13 AM
benny6
Sigmoid, the image is too small for me to read anything. Can you post a bigger image, or email me a copy? My email is in my signature line.

I created a Pirate Ship account and will use that on my next shipment.

Tony.


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November 06, 2022, 07:58 AM
sigmoid
quote:
Originally posted by benny6:
Sigmoid, the image is too small for me to read anything. Can you post a bigger image, or email me a copy? My email is in my signature line.

I created a Pirate Ship account and will use that on my next shipment.

Tony.


Tony,
Is that better?
I am still using photobucket and its a bitch, sorry


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November 06, 2022, 08:49 AM
911Boss
+1 on PirateShip, save a good chunk of money with them.

If I read the notice right it says you can’t send from Customer Center but can have it picked up? That doesn’t seem to make much sense.






What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


November 06, 2022, 09:51 AM
Blackmore
quote:
Originally posted by 911Boss:
+1 on PirateShip, save a good chunk of money with them.

If I read the notice right it says you can’t send from Customer Center but can have it picked up? That doesn’t seem to make much sense.


I've been using Pirate Ship for a while and am impressed with the savings.

I was shipping a complete AR upper - 34x6x6 box - printed the label and had it all ready to go. Recalled I was receiving a UPS shipment (BTW, also gun parts) that day so figured "what the heck" I'll put it out and see if the driver takes it. He left my package and took my shipment. My buyer had it in the correct time frame.


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November 06, 2022, 09:55 AM
Anush
quote:
+1 on PirateShip, save a good chunk of money with them.

quote:
I've been using Pirate Ship for a while and am impressed with the savings.


+1 Same here


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November 06, 2022, 01:20 PM
cas
“schedule a pick up“ , that way we have more time to lose/steal it.

(And burn more fuel which is supposedly what has driven the prices up. If anything it should be the other way around, that you CAN’T schedule a pick up.)



As for USPS… last week I paid 10 bucks to “Priority mail” a letter, not far into they next state over.
138 mile drive. At one point it was about 20 minutes away from its destination. But they sent it west, for an additional 800 miles round-trip. Took six days to get there, on a tour of ten postal facilities, that’s what I got from my extra $9.44. Roll Eyes


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November 06, 2022, 04:05 PM
sigmoid
Tony,
Check your email.


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November 06, 2022, 04:08 PM
Lord Vaalic
What's an average cost for shipmygun to ship a pistol?




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November 06, 2022, 04:24 PM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by sigmoid:
I went to ups to return a scope to seller, when asked contents, I replied, "rifle scope"
Nope, can't ship it she says, new rules, no firearm parts.

UPS will no longer accept firearms parts from shippers that are not FFLs with a shipping agreement with UPS. That policy is now part of their terms and tariffs and on their website. Reading the terms and tariffs, there’s a number of things they won’t ship; snakeskin watch straps are specifically mentioned.
November 07, 2022, 08:15 AM
Blackmore
quote:
Originally posted by sigmoid:
I went to ups to return a scope to seller, when asked contents, I replied, "rifle scope"
Nope, can't ship it she says, new rules, no firearm parts.


I sold a SuperSniper scope to someone and the original packing box I used still had SWFA tape on it. Resealed it, printed a Pirate Ship UPS label and dropped it off at the local (non-UPS) pack and ship place. They are very cool about letting you leave packages with pre-printed labels for pick up and have a table for UPS and one for Fed-Ex. Set your package on the correct table, say "thanks" and leave.

The trick is finding a way to avoid dealing directly with a UPS controlled entity.


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