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| Peace through superior firepower  |
Larry David to the rescue.  ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Admirable yes, hero no. For the few in NYC when there was not enough PPE and they were actually putting themselves and families at higher risk I'd say just short of hero. For ones treating patients with all proper PPE and using best practices for their profession, just another day at work. Hero is reserved for selfless action with chance or likelihood of great peril or death. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Just another example of Virtue Signaling. *click on the Like button  ...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV | |||
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word is definitely over-used my personal definition of the HIGHEST order of hero is: exposure to grave danger assisting a person unknown to you in a situation the person has little or no training for and is not paid to perform the brave task. so an example would be: you see a 4 year old kid fall off the end of a pier into rough surf... you are NOT a lifeguard. Could drown. Are not a paid rescue worker. You save the kid's life -- you are a hero of the highest order. Other actions can be heroic but lower on the 'totem' of hero if they involve training, salary / benefits, etc. My personal take. ============================================== Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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Still finding my way |
Hero is a word that should be jealously guarded from overuse. The actual hero's out there who've earned the title deserve at least that. | |||
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Better Than I Deserve! |
I work in a healthcare facility and we're essential to care for the patients here. The only thing that I'm going to add is that I am really surprised by how many of our "heroes" bailed at the first sign of trouble. Everyone was happy to collect a paycheck and come to work every day when all the patients were relatively healthy. The minute we had to deal with COVID-19 dozens quit and the ones that stayed started making demands for "hazard pay". We can't hire anyone to replace those who quit because everyone else is happy to sit at home and collect fat unemployment benefits and wait out the pandemic. I know it is a generalization but I lost a lot of the respect I held for healthcare workers once this crisis got going. My three decade military career didn't prepare me for healthcare workers to walk out when things got tough or the first sign of danger to ones self. It caught me off guard for sure as I was expecting everyone to "do their duty". My boss informed me that my expectations were WAY too high. I can't count how many Nurses and CNA's that have come to me and said "I'm going to take a leave of absence until this blows over" to which I respond, you're essential and your request for a LOA is denied. ____________________________ NRA Benefactor Life Member GOA Life Member Arizona Citizens Defense League Life Member | |||
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Eh, it's no big deal for me. Much of the "Heroes" of today are media driven and they make for feel good stories for those that watch the news. I identify with Larry David in the clip above, one of my favorite shows, the comedy reflects a lot of how I feel! Houston Texas, if the heat don't kill ya, the skeeters will. | |||
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God will always provide |
As a retired Firefighter I knew signing on or shorty thereafter there were risk of every imaginable types. I took those risk with open eyes and did my Job. Hero is for the guy or gal that does something heroic,not their Job. Laying it on the line for a stranger was my JOB and obligation to the community that paid my bills. Now I Loved my job, and 20 yrs into retirement I still miss the unknown problem solving adventures in Fires and on Rescue runs.But a Hero? As my Dear departed Dad always said the only Heroes in WWII were those killed in action. The rest were just doing their job and staying alive to fight on. And he was a much decorated and injured Vet. Now,Grocery store clerks are heroes,Nurses Drs. People wearing space suits to treat patients. Please,I think not. | |||
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I really appreciate these people. But heroes??? No. Same goes for grocery stores workers, delivery drivers etc. Really appreciate them but it's your job. They are actually lucky .....they're working and not seeing their small business and life savings evaporate. I reserve the word hero for a very select few. | |||
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^^^^ Thanks that was funny. | |||
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| Ammoholic |
I'd like my trophy please! My profession falls either in top 10 or top 25 of most deadly jobs in the USA depending on what I'm doing for the day. Medical workers are not even in the top 25. You may now shower me with adoration, thanks. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Here in MQT there is a nursing home that is a hot spot for the virus. Lots of interviews with the Administrator about heroic actions, signs on the lawn that say "heroes work here". Bullshit. I pulled the Medicare inspection reports (available online) for the facility and.... Cited for infection control procedure errors. For three years running. A fact which the heroes (and our media) have failed to mention. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Unflappable Enginerd |
My risk ranking depends on what I'm doing on a daily basis as well. Ironically, the riskier part is usually the most interesting, for me at least.  Logging and commercial fishing is almost exclusively at the very top. Deadliest catch is pretty close after-all... There are a LOT of lists out there ranking jobs by risk, and in general I agree with most of them. On some lists you'll find EMT's listed on them based on a number of factors, but that is the only "medical" workers I have found on most any of the lists. __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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Two tours of duty and current nurse. It's always awkward with the "thank you for your service" and "hero" comments. This healthcare hero talk more so. I feel like a lot the staff in places like NYC working 16 hour shifts in COVID packed ICUs deserve some flattery. But, then I recall the headhunters that were dialing us RNs up offering $100+/hr to go to NOLA and NYC. _____________ This country has a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem and a tyranny problem disguised as a security problem. -Powerful Joe Rogan | |||
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| If you see me running try to keep up  |
That reminds me of the reservist called to active duty during the first Gulf War and later. Some were complaining about having to go to war. They were fine getting paid to be weekend warriors up until they had to be put into action. | |||
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| Rail-less and Tail-less |
Yeah no. Especially not where I work. Sure I see and treat lots of COVID patients but I’m well protected and business in the ER is otherwise slow so I actually have easier days. Have I seen staff do heroic acts but still wouldn’t consider them a “hero.” We are just doing our jobs. I do have some friends in NYC/NJ that went through a rough patch mentally. I know ICU nurses that lost 2-3 patients a day for weeks. It’s a heavy burden to carry when you have to be the de facto loved one for the dying patient because family can’t visit. And just as soon as you bag up your first expired patient another dies. It has to weigh on them and take a toll. With that said going through the shit doesn’t make you a hero. I saw this posted online and it’s speaks a thousand words  And for some levity  _______________________________________________ Use thumb-size bullets to create fist-size holes. | |||
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| Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
Tremendously overused term in the last few years making it almost meaningless. Healthcare workers are important, sometimes critically important as are many others. If you do something for others that most would not and in a sacrificial way and you're likely to loose your life doing it, then you are talking. I think it's one of those things that's hard to define exactly but you know it when you see it. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Striker in waiting |
FWIW, Mrs.BurtonRW, RN, doesn’t like the “hero” label at all. -Rob I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888 A=A | |||
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The only Hero I know is my father, who returned from WWII, after being shot in Combat and suffering with bouts of Malaria but in one piece. ********* "Some people are alive today because it's against the law to kill them". | |||
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safe & sound |
I have long held the same opinion. An occupation doesn't make you special. There may be some people within that occupation that do great things, but merely doing a job is just that. I set military aside as an exception because it is not a job. That is the only "occupation" where you sign your life over to the nation, and where you must perform as assigned. | |||
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