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WASHINGTON — Danielle Snider was sailing through her training to be an F.B.I. agent last year, passing her fitness, academic and firearms tests. Then came the last phase: training on tactics like entering a house and confronting an armed attacker.

Ms. Snider, an Air Force Academy graduate, stumbled. In one day, instructors at the F.B.I.’s sprawling facility in Quantico, Va., wrote her up four times. With less than two weeks to go before graduation, she was bounced from the course in January.

But in one instance, a man in training with her made a similar mistake and it was overlooked, she said. It was part of a pattern, she and other women who failed out of the academy said, in which instructors — almost all men — scrutinized them more closely because they were women and treated men differently when they erred.

“Everyone is making mistakes,” said Ms. Snider, 30, who found another job with the federal government as an investigator. “I felt it wasn’t the same playing field for women. I think it is fundamentally unfair.”
Ms. Snider is among a dozen women who accused the F.B.I. of gender discrimination at its training academy, detailing their allegations in a complaint last month to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. One of the women also claimed she suffered discrimination because of her race, and another because of a disability.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/1...-discrimination.html
 
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Maybe others made mistakes also, but not 4 in one day?




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Was curious, so I went out and found this woman's picture. No surprise here...



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I am curious as to what the disability was. Not mentioned in article. Emily Blunt qualified. LOL
 
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Just a guess: During building / room clearance drills she muzzled her team. 4 times. Or if Simunitions were used, she capped team members.


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Just a guess: During building / room clearance drills she muzzled her team. 4 times. Or if Simunitions were used, she capped team members.


Yup, muzzling or blue on blue is a hard no-go



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Yes, curious what the "disability" is




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... she capped team members.


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From what I’ve seen in federal service, it’s more likely to have agencies bend over backward to pass people that meet demographic quotas. The FBI is no exception from off the record discussions. Sounds like she failed badly and is calling foul.

But shouldn’t we just believe her at face value? Isn’t that the current trend?




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You guys are horrible. Really. First the Duke Lacrosse team has their way with this lady, now this, and yet you all just pile on. I'm disgusted....


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"Among instructors’ complaints: During an exercise at Hogan’s Alley, she unnecessarily escalated a situation with an actor; she was too slow to come to the aid of a partner held at gunpoint; and she nearly holstered an empty weapon — a no-no in the F.B.I.

She also fired at a knife-wielding attacker at a bar but failed to take into account bystanders who could have been wounded, the instructors said."

Seems like someone has books smarts. But no common sense.
 
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Does the FBI offer remedial training and retesting?


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From working at various agencies both State, County and Federal, the instructors are/will be leaned on to do everything possible to help the students pass. Especially in this day and age with budget cuts, personnel shortages and if they fall into a certain demographic.

So I read what PeteF posted, from working at the academy and attending two academies those are mistakes that students make and are corrected in the course of training and near the end during the simulation exercises.

I have to believe there is more to her being dismissed than this. I know one thing that will get you bounced and it does not matter if you are a rock star and that is a piss poor attitude or have an attitude when the instructors correct you and are trying to help. This also includes having one with the other students in class, and are not a team player.
 
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Quantico (both academies there) and FLETC are all geared to pass trainees, not fail them, The practical exercises/scenarios are set up to be completely "winnable" and in the crawl-walk-run dynamic, by the time they get to "run" they've been thoroughly puppy-walked through all of the skills they'll need to get it right.

If they bounced her for those four deficiencies, I can virtually promise they were just the CROWNING four deficiencies, probably following a bunch of remedial work and after they carefully documented up a variety of other issues.

I was not there, so sure... she might've been the target of a vast hidden conspiracy at FBI. But I'd bet the mortgage payment against that. It's simply WAY more work and headache to fail somebody than to pass them, it gets a lot of scrutiny, and it requires a whole bunch of buy-in from the chain of command.
 
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I'm willing to bet she could do the book work, but was abysmal at field work. An absolute liability to a team and would have cost team members' lives.

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Betting that she's a leftist. When you fail, cry sexism, if you're a woman. Racism, if you're "colored".


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This crap reminds me of why the 10mm was no longer used by the FBI.


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But can she dance?




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But can she dance?


I bet she doesn't cook either.LOL It seems like she is skilled in escalating situations. That one example is telling.
 
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"Among instructors’ complaints: During an exercise at Hogan’s Alley, she unnecessarily escalated a situation with an actor; she was too slow to come to the aid of a partner held at gunpoint; and she nearly holstered an empty weapon — a no-no in the F.B.I.

She also fired at a knife-wielding attacker at a bar but failed to take into account bystanders who could have been wounded, the instructors said."

Seems like someone has books smarts. But no common sense.

All of those sound like fixable mistakes. Responding to the critique with, “Shoot, you’re right, I blew that. I need to do better.” would likely get pointers and additional help as needed. Responding by being pissy would likely result in being shown the door. Wonder what her response was...
 
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