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In 1990 I bought my first house. Almost from the day we bought it there was an American flag flying in front of it.
When we moved to Florida 20+ years ago the first thing we did was buy an American flag. Other than hurricanes it has bee flying continuously in fort of our house. It is lit at night and and replaced regularly I would never do anything to disrespect the flag or our country.
This is something my wife and I are very proud of.

I have been thinking about this a lot lately and was wondering if it would be disrespectful to fly it upside down.
I know the meaning of doing this and this country is definitely in trouble. I am not sure if we are at this point yet and would not want to do anything disrespectful to the country and our flag however in my opinion we are getting close.

I also in no way want to upset anyone here. I know a lot of members have fought for our flag and this country and I know thousands upon thousands of people have died defending our flag and this country. I never served in the military. The closest to this would have been my service as a firefighter in my home town.

I also do not want to start a fight over this question. Please be respectful of others opinions.

If the moderators think this not an appropriate question please close this thread or delete it.

This is a question I am having a very very hard time with.




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My first thought whenever seeing an upside down flag is that the person(s) within the house may be in need of assistance. You may inadvertently be receiving visits from the police to check on your welfare.

My second thought is usually that the person flying the flag doesn't like the current administration and is using the upside down flag to voice their protest.



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My first thought whenever seeing an upside down flag is that the person(s) within the house may be in need of assistance. You may inadvertently be receiving visits from the police to check on your welfare.

My second thought is usually that the person flying the flag doesn't like the current administration and is using the upside down flag to voice their protest.


I agree with the above. It is normally meant to convey a signal of distress, but has also been used as a sign of protest against various situations.
 
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I wouldn't do it if it's not a distress signal.

FWIW, I would not have done it in the Maobama years either.

Conditions in this country change. Administrations change.

The flag should, IMHO, be an unadulerated, unmolested constant.

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If you have or can obtain a Gadsden Flag (rattlesnake on yellow field with “Don’t Tread on Me”), that might’ve more appropriate to fly underneath the US flag as a sign of protest and distress.


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Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:
I have been thinking about this a lot lately and was wondering if it would be disrespectful to fly it upside down.

I don't know about disrespectful, but I feel it would be inappropriate. You may be distressed about the state of the country, but you're not literally "in distress."

As 2BobTanner suggested: Flying the Gadsden flag underneath, or instead of, the U.S. flag would be the better way to express your sentiments.



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My personal opinion, this is neither appropriate nor respectful. Again, this is personal opinion.

Morning and evening "colors" had a special meaning to me when I was in the Navy.

I am having major repair / renovation work done at my house. I am looking forward to the part of this work that will include erecting a flagpole, complete with night lighting.

Interesting, the work is being done by a Mexican-American, who came to this country about forty years ago, as a thirteen year old boy, and is now a U.S. citizen. He is enthusiastic about installing a concrete base, and he produced a flagpole for me, that he rescued from a renovation job on another property.

I noticed that a couple of posters mentioned the Gadsden flag, which I had intended to fly, below the U.S. flag.

I am also planning to substitute the Betsy Ross 13-star flag for the current one on appropriate holidays.



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Are you under immediate distress/duress?

If not, please don't fly it upside down.

That is my opinion, you can always do what you want...




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I am also planning to substitute the Betsy Ross 13-star flag for the current one on appropriate holidays.

I've the original Betsy Ross flag, in the proper proportions, for Independence Day. I will fly the Gadsden flag below it on that day. I've a U.S. Army flag for Memorial and Veteran's Days. The rest of the time I fly a current U.S. flag with a State flag below it.

Ours is not lit, so I bring it in at sundown and raise it first thing when I get up in the morning, providing weather allows.



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My first thought whenever seeing an upside down flag is that the person(s) within the house may be in need of assistance. You may inadvertently be receiving visits from the police to check on your welfare.

My second thought is usually that the person flying the flag doesn't like the current administration and is using the upside down flag to voice their protest.


I agree would not fly it upside down.


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Another please don’t fly her upside down.
“Don’t tread on me” flags send a very clear & powerful message

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raise it first thing when I get up in the morning, providing weather allows.
I believe that a flag made of weather-resistant material, like nylon or polyester (as opposed to cotton) may be flown in inclement weather. Is this correct?



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I believe that a flag made of weather-resistant material, like nylon or polyester (as opposed to cotton) may be flown in inclement weather. Is this correct?[/QUOTE]

Yes, a all weather flag may be flown at all times. As to the OP’s question; I like the idea of a Gadsden flag, I’m not enthusiastic about flying an American flag upside down.


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Regardless of the technical meaning, others may not be aware of any meaning or flag etiquette.
Keep it simple. Fly it in the normal position.


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If I saw it flying like that I'd just look at the house and think to myself God I hate useless leftists and their whining. Then I would look for the 'Hate has no home here' sign.



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raise it first thing when I get up in the morning, providing weather allows.
I believe that a flag made of weather-resistant material, like nylon or polyester (as opposed to cotton) may be flown in inclement weather. Is this correct?

I'm not certain on that point.

If it's just drizzling or flurrying, and not blowing too hard, I leave it up.



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I would never do this. As suggested fly the Gadsden if needed.

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Yes there are all weather flags. In the military we called them storm flags and only brought them in at night, no lights, and if the wind was so high that it would tear them. My flags, I have three flying, an American flag, our state flag and the Christian flag are illuminated at night and fly 24/7 regardless of the weather. If they show signs of wear or fading they are replaced immediately.

As to flying the flag upside down, I believe that is only recognized as a valid display of the flag at sea when a vessel is in distress. On a land base flagpole I would personally see that as disrespectful.



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I think flying a flag upside down is a signal of acute distress and that those flying it that way are in need of immediate assistance.

I do not think it is for generalized distress or a signal that one is facing difficulties.

I don't think it should be used a political statement about the country being in trouble.

I wouldn't do it.




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Another vote for not upside down.

Gadsden as a second flag gets your message out.

 
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