I have Been following the catastrophic engine failures in Toyota/Lexus Tundras and LX vehicles for awhile now.
Man they really screwed up with this engine roll out that is for sure.
Most folks have been very interested in what Toyota was going to do about it.
Lots of speculations from, rebuilding short blocks, everyone gets a short block replacement with a full inspection of the rest of the motor and replacing anything else that was showing wear/damage, all the way up to a full new long block for everyone.

After months of waiting Toyota finally announced everyone gets a complete new engine assembly!!!

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For all involved vehicles, Toyota and Lexus dealers will replace the engine with a new one at no cost to customers

https://pressroom.toyota.com/t...d-lexus-lx-vehicles/

That’s pretty wild but certainly what they need to do. I am still not fully buying machining debris from production is causing the failures but that is just me.

I read somewhere if one were to take their Tundra in for a full engine replacement that it would cost upwards of $25k on these trucks.

Wow. It’s a hit for sure, but what is the value of a reputation? They’ve got to restore trust.

Cheaper, quicker and much less down time to plug in a complete new unit than have mechanics at a dealership doing partial rebuilds.
I don't have any of those models so I wasn't aware of the problems but I would be much happier if i was as an owner with this solution.

Is this all the new V6T engines, or just the upper iForceMax engines?

Guy in my office has a lower trim new Tundra, will have to let him know about this.

Believe it's the V6T, also read a while back that dealers are not accepting trade ins from customers with these engines, they don't want them sitting on the lot waiting for the recall to be completed for months.

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Originally posted by HRK:
Believe it's the V6T, also read a while back that dealers are not accepting trade ins from customers with these engines, they don't want them sitting on the lot waiting for the recall to be completed for months.

I ran into the other side of that when I bought my F150.
Was looking at a nice 2014 CPO Limited, had a deal worked out & they found it was affected by the brake booster recall that had no current fix, so they 'couldn't legally sell it' with an open recall [their words].

Ended up in a new 2016 XLT instead.

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If it were Ford or Chevy you’d get a reman or long block. Been there done that. At their discretion of course.

Toyota comes through again.

Wow, that is going to cost them big time but glad to hear they are willing to do it. I wish Nissan would do the same for a couple of their models.

For some reason, I thought I YouTubed the recall was at 102k for the Tundra but, perhaps just a couple thousand had chips in the blocks. No word on the Sequoia yet. And, I saw the new Land Cruiser, be still my heart. Dont know what's under that hood.

I've been following "The Car Guy Online" and "The Car Care Nut" on youtoob. The former has been a doomer on the V6T engine from the 1st couple problem reports, despite being a long-time toyota fan. While the latter is a current/former? toyota master technician who says "everything's fine". I suppose the 350 new employees in their Alabama facility and the promise of a new engine settles that.

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
If it were Ford or Chevy you’d get a reman or long block. Been there done that. At their discretion of course.

Toyota comes through again.

And if it was a Stelantis vehicle (Ram or Jeep) they would deny the problem until the cows come home… I’ve owned several.

Can someone please provide the Cliff Notes version of what is happening with this issue?

I am looking to purchase another vehicle. While I would like to do it now, it seems best (for me) to wait until May of next year. The crew cab Toyota Tacoma is on the short list.

I understand that Toyota has recently done a significant redesign of both the Tundra and Tacoma. I'm OK with the re-design because I don't need a Pickup TRUCK. I want large sedan with an open cargo area. That's what practically all the pickup trucks are these days.

No skin in this particular game, but my first question would be "are you giving me a new engine that is the same as the PoS that you are replacing?"

Or another "new design" that may have other unknown issues?

WIll Toyota be publishing stats on how many of these replaced engines actually have damage, and the details of that damage? Will they be selling the "good ones" on the open market, or just tossing them into a landfill. Seems like there may be a profit opportunity here.

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Originally posted by Broadside:
Can someone please provide the Cliff Notes version of what is happening with this issue?

I am looking to purchase another vehicle. While I would like to do it now, it seems best (for me) to wait until May of next year. The crew cab Toyota Tacoma is on the short list.

I understand that Toyota has recently done a significant redesign of both the Tundra and Tacoma. I'm OK with the re-design because I don't need a Pickup TRUCK. I want large sedan with an open cargo area. That's what practically all the pickup trucks are these days.

Toyota's new turbo engines have manufacturing debris left in them, causing them to fail within a few miles in some cases. Many don't seem to have a problem, but the issue is widespread enough that they are replacing every single engine.

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
Is this all the new V6T engines, or just the upper iForceMax engines?

Guy in my office has a lower trim new Tundra, will have to let him know about this.

It’s the non hybrid models. The hybrids have not been recalled yet.
So far only 2022 and 2023 models

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Originally posted by David Lee:
For some reason, I thought I YouTubed the recall was at 102k for the Tundra but, perhaps just a couple thousand had chips in the blocks. No word on the Sequoia yet. And, I saw the new Land Cruiser, be still my heart. Dont know what's under that hood.

Sequoias nor Hybrid Tundras are being recalled yet.
The recall is currently a safety recall because if the engine falls on the highway or while driving the vehicle ceases to operate.
However the hybrids will still operate for at least a mile before the engine quits so they do not fall under the recall, yet.

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Originally posted by architect:
No skin in this particular game, but my first question would be "are you giving me a new engine that is the same as the PoS that you are replacing?"

Or another "new design" that may have other unknown issues?

WIll Toyota be publishing stats on how many of these replaced engines actually have damage, and the details of that damage? Will they be selling the "good ones" on the open market, or just tossing them into a landfill. Seems like there may be a profit opportunity here.

So currently Toyota says there IS NO DESIGN FLAW in these motors.
They are claiming debris is being left in the blocks from the original machining of the block and that jams up in the main bearing causing the main bearing to seize and destroy the motor.

They claim they have remedied the machining debris issue in BOTH production facilities.

I have a hard time believing that machining debris is the issue being that it’s happening in engines from two separate facilities.
But I could be wrong.

I'd want a separate and longer warranty for that rebuilt engine.

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
I ran into the other side of that when I bought my F50.

I do not recall you posting pics of that here or in the F1 thread at time of purchase. We're gonna need to see proof of ownership.

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Originally posted by Georgeair:

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
I ran into the other side of that when I bought my F150.

I do not recall you posting pics of that here or in the F1 thread at time of purchase. We're gonna need to see proof of ownership.

Oops. yeah, the F50 wouldn't be my first choice, but wouldn't turn one down.

Only Toyota could have the biggest engine disaster in the history of automobiles and since they are replacing them because they have to guys are claiming “Toyota comes through again”. Haha.

100,000 engines? Holy crap that’s a huge chunk of change!

I had a Honda Civic that had a recall for a cracked engine block, and I ended up getting an entire engine replacement as part of it. Honda dealership tried to say it wasn’t the issue I had until I showed them the pictures from my mechanic of the crack on a weak section of the block.