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Originally posted by Ed Fowler:
Not a bad marketing plan, "hey someone is paying off lay away stuff at our stores, put something you don't need but want in layaway and maybe you will be a winner!"

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Originally posted by Dusty78:
“Kids no Christmas this year...we had to sell the toys Kid Rock bought you to pay for your braces cause Bendable said crooked teeth are the work of the devil.”

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Originally posted by mrvmax:

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Originally posted by Dusty78:
“Kids no Christmas this year...we had to sell the toys Kid Rock bought you to pay for your braces cause Bendable said crooked teeth are the work of the devil.”

They’d be better in the long run without the toys. I grew up poor as did many people and lack of toys at Christmas has not affected me in the least. Heck, I’ve gone through a Christmas without electricity. Not one child I know out of all my acquaintances today is lacking toys, I’m sure most people can say the same. I see more spoiled brats with more junk than I ever dreamed of as a kid now days. They have too many toys and zero appreciation for what they have. I avoid Walmart but when I do go I never make the trip without seeing out of control children and lack of Christmas toys is not the cause of their behavior. Missing some presents at Christmas will not hurt them a bit.
Let me tell you a quick story. I’ve been teaching fatherhood and parenting classes to young men for about five years now. In one program I use a man stated that his most memorable gift he ever got as a kid was a coupon from his dad. The coupon was for 365 hours with his dad, an hour a day for a year. He said no toy he ever got compared to the time with his dad over that year. Kids don’t need toys for happiness so I don’t value gifts like I used to. Even poor parents have the ability to bless their kids by parenting them. That will reap much more than anything sold at wally mart. I’m stepping off my soap box now and I’m sure some will disagree with me. But, I’m doing what I think will help out fathers with their kids and others can pay off layaways at wally mart if they think that helps. Your statement works better as written than it does as sarcasm.

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Originally posted by r0gue:
Charitable people do pay off other folks medical bills too. That's a thing now too.

IMO -- Any kindness in the world is oh so welcome! I'm not interested in passing judgement.

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They’d be better in the long run without the toys. I grew up poor as did many people and lack of toys at Christmas has not affected me in the least.

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Originally posted by Dusty78:

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Originally posted by mrvmax:

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Originally posted by Dusty78:
“Kids no Christmas this year...we had to sell the toys Kid Rock bought you to pay for your braces cause Bendable said crooked teeth are the work of the devil.”

They’d be better in the long run without the toys. I grew up poor as did many people and lack of toys at Christmas has not affected me in the least. Heck, I’ve gone through a Christmas without electricity. Not one child I know out of all my acquaintances today is lacking toys, I’m sure most people can say the same. I see more spoiled brats with more junk than I ever dreamed of as a kid now days. They have too many toys and zero appreciation for what they have. I avoid Walmart but when I do go I never make the trip without seeing out of control children and lack of Christmas toys is not the cause of their behavior. Missing some presents at Christmas will not hurt them a bit.
Let me tell you a quick story. I’ve been teaching fatherhood and parenting classes to young men for about five years now. In one program I use a man stated that his most memorable gift he ever got as a kid was a coupon from his dad. The coupon was for 365 hours with his dad, an hour a day for a year. He said no toy he ever got compared to the time with his dad over that year. Kids don’t need toys for happiness so I don’t value gifts like I used to. Even poor parents have the ability to bless their kids by parenting them. That will reap much more than anything sold at wally mart. I’m stepping off my soap box now and I’m sure some will disagree with me. But, I’m doing what I think will help out fathers with their kids and others can pay off layaways at wally mart if they think that helps. Your statement works better as written than it does as sarcasm.

Well growing up poor and toyless apparently also made you humorless. Don’t worry...no one is asking you to buy in toys. Why anyone cares what someone else chooses to do with their money is beyond me. I would say Merry Christmas but from your post I would guess you are more of a Festivus kind of guy.

“...And at the Festivus dinner you gather your family around and tell them all the ways they have disappointed you over the past year.” - Frank Costanza

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Originally posted by mrvmax:

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Originally posted by Dusty78:

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Originally posted by mrvmax:

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Originally posted by Dusty78:
“Kids no Christmas this year...we had to sell the toys Kid Rock bought you to pay for your braces cause Bendable said crooked teeth are the work of the devil.”

They’d be better in the long run without the toys. I grew up poor as did many people and lack of toys at Christmas has not affected me in the least. Heck, I’ve gone through a Christmas without electricity. Not one child I know out of all my acquaintances today is lacking toys, I’m sure most people can say the same. I see more spoiled brats with more junk than I ever dreamed of as a kid now days. They have too many toys and zero appreciation for what they have. I avoid Walmart but when I do go I never make the trip without seeing out of control children and lack of Christmas toys is not the cause of their behavior. Missing some presents at Christmas will not hurt them a bit.
Let me tell you a quick story. I’ve been teaching fatherhood and parenting classes to young men for about five years now. In one program I use a man stated that his most memorable gift he ever got as a kid was a coupon from his dad. The coupon was for 365 hours with his dad, an hour a day for a year. He said no toy he ever got compared to the time with his dad over that year. Kids don’t need toys for happiness so I don’t value gifts like I used to. Even poor parents have the ability to bless their kids by parenting them. That will reap much more than anything sold at wally mart. I’m stepping off my soap box now and I’m sure some will disagree with me. But, I’m doing what I think will help out fathers with their kids and others can pay off layaways at wally mart if they think that helps. Your statement works better as written than it does as sarcasm.

Well growing up poor and toyless apparently also made you humorless. Don’t worry...no one is asking you to buy in toys. Why anyone cares what someone else chooses to do with their money is beyond me. I would say Merry Christmas but from your post I would guess you are more of a Festivus kind of guy.

“...And at the Festivus dinner you gather your family around and tell them all the ways they have disappointed you over the past year.” - Frank Costanza

I look toward to feats of strength during Festivus.

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Originally posted by BenderRodriguez:
I'm sure there are toys and gifts on layaway and maybe the do gooders wanted those families to have a memorable Christmas.

Money isn't everything. Scrimping and saving every penny while working multiple jobs because financially it allows someone to retire early isn't the formula for a rewarding life. All the money in the world can't turn back time, buy health or compensate for the missed experiences life offers. If you don't stop to smell the roses you'll be pushing up daisies before you know it.

I believe those families are going to look back and remember this Christmas fondly. Not so much if their medical bills got paid down/off because the insurance company weaseled out of paying from some BS in the fine print. Besides, medical debt is written off all the time because it's an over inflated number to begin with and their profits are massive.

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:
I think that the original person doing this knew that eventually his name would get out and it would be good PR...

I heard Glen Beck talking about it today, he went and paid off some lay-a-way and the people started getting emails and text messages about the account beong paid off and come get your stuff.....Beck said he had no idea and that he was not able to stay ananomys

he also touched on doing something kind like this should be done quietly...and not bragging...

personally, do what you want to with your money...if you feel good and you have helped someone-Great.

I donate to the Shriners hospitals for kids becasue they once helped my big brother. and my parents and our family can never re-pay what they did for us-so I try to pay it forward to kids who don't have the means....

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Originally posted by shovelhead:

X2. One of the things I cited for retiring from full time work last year. Ex-boss tried to use the line on me to keep me working longer "The one who dies with the most toys wins." To which I replied "And you are still dead, your heirs win"