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In Russia, last year, 400 people were arrested for things they posted on social media...
March 18, 2024, 05:17 PM
parabellumIn Russia, last year, 400 people were arrested for things they posted on social media...
...and in Britain,
3300 people were arrested in the same interval, for the same type of offense.
https://twitter.com/mastarP001.../1769557252556406912March 18, 2024, 05:40 PM
darthfusterI understand Trudeaux wants the same power under the guise of punishing so called disinformation.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier March 18, 2024, 05:47 PM
stickman428As I get older I understand more and more why my ancestors left Britain. I’ve seen some of the social media post related arrests on YouTube.
What a sad state of affairs for that country ESPECIALLY WHEN you consider the blind eye cops over there take to Pro Paleostinian protestors and people burning the Union Jack.
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March 18, 2024, 06:03 PM
wcb6092Canada: This is proposed and might make it through parliament. Trudeau will sign it if it passes.
New Liberal 'online harms' bill to make online hate punishable up to life in prison
https://nationalpost.com/news/...rmful-online-contentBill C-63 aims to force social-media, user-uploaded adult content and live-streaming services to reduce exposure to online content deemed harmful, to strengthen the reporting of child pornography and to better address hate propaganda and provide recourse to victims of hate online.
It also amends the Criminal Code to create a new standalone hate crime offence that would allow penalties up to life imprisonment to deter hateful conduct, as well as raise the maximum punishments for hate propaganda offences from five years to life imprisonment for advocating genocide.
Harmful content is defined in the legislation as content that incites violence, that foments hatred, that incites violent extremism or terrorism, is used to bully a child, that sexually victimizes a child, that induces a child to harm themselves, or intimate content communicated without consent.
The bill also creates a new Digital Safety Commission, which will be responsible for enforcing rules and holding online services accountable, as well as a separate Digital Safety Ombudsperson, which will support and advocate for users and make recommendations to social media services and the government.
More at link
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March 18, 2024, 06:22 PM
RightwireEvery time I see something like this I hear the echos of that famous line from Octopussy when the Soviet Chairman says" World Socialism will be achieved peaceably."
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There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. March 18, 2024, 08:25 PM
YooperSigsLife in Prison? Seriously? The Canucks have lost their minds!

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March 19, 2024, 05:11 AM
gearhoundsThe democrats are salivating at the thought of the same- if it weren’t for that pesky 1st amendment and that damn 2nd that protects it. That’s the primary reason they want to target so called “assault weapons” despite the fact that they are almost never used in any crimes.
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downtownvI believe Trudeau is crow-barring this thru, up in Canada.
March 19, 2024, 06:36 AM
TRIOFirst of all, they are 30 or so years too late.
If they really want to protect children, focus ONLY on that issue.
They are using the issue of children to get censorship enacted. "How can you be against this? Do it for the children!".
Second, who defines what is "Hate speech"? Those in power at the moment?
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The right of self preservation, in turn, was understood as the right to defend oneself against attacks by lawless individuals, or, if absolutely necessary, to resist and throw off a tyrannical government.
March 19, 2024, 08:26 AM
TMatsquote:
originally posted by TRIO:
Second, who defines what is "Hate speech"? Those in power at the moment?
I think you know the answer to that already. What I question is whether or not those defining “hate speech” would change much, no matter who holds the keys to government at a point in time.
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March 19, 2024, 08:40 AM
darthfusterquote:
Originally posted by gearhounds:
The democrats are salivating at the thought of the same- if it weren’t for that pesky 1st amendment and that damn 2nd that protects it. That’s the primary reason they want to target so called “assault weapons” despite the fact that they are almost never used in any crimes.
They are pecking away at the second amendment. They’ve weakened our ability to defend our rights. Though they’ve lost some ground they hoped to take, they’ll never stop trying. We all know to defeat an opponent, attack him at his strongest point. When that point falls, the rest of the defense falls soon after. If they manage to take or neuter the second amendment, the rest will collapse in short order. Trudeau is so bold because Canadians don’t have a second amendment and have been disarmed of the weapons necessary to put down tyranny.
….and right on cue
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier March 19, 2024, 09:05 AM
ranger312 Ketanji Brown Jackson Concerned First Amendment ‘Hamstringing the Government’U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson said Monday that she was concerned that the First Amendment was “hamstringing the government in significant ways, in the most important time periods.”
Jackson addressed Louisiana Solicitor General Benjamin Aguiñaga, whose state joined Missouri in suing the federal government over its attempts to censor speech on social media platforms during the coronavirus pandemic, ostensibly for public health reasons.
Jackson had earlier presented a hypothetical situation in which social media platforms were allowing a dangerous trend to circulate in which children were encouraged to jump out of windows “at increasing elevations.” She asked whether government authorities could not “encourage social media platforms to take down the information that is instigating this problem.”
Aguiñaga suggested that the government could use the “bully pulpit” to push back against the content of the information, but could not call the social media platforms to encourage them, or coerce them, to take down the information.
Jackson objected, saying that it was not enough to say that the government could post its own speech. There were situations, she suggested, in which the government could “encourage or require this kind of censorship” necessary for public safety.
Conservatives have objected to the White House calling on social media companies to suppress information — such as skepticism about vaccines, or political speech about election integrity.
The case is Murthy v. Missouri, No. 23A243, in the Supreme Court of the United States.
March 19, 2024, 09:09 AM
Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
….and right on cue
My jaw hit the floor yesterday when I heard that. A sitting Supreme Court Justice didn't know what any high school civics student knows? Wow. I can just picture Alito and Thomas face-palming when she opened her pie hole.
Although, I suppose that it shouldn't have surprised me as she can't define what a woman is either.
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March 19, 2024, 10:04 AM
TMatsquote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
We all know to defeat an opponent, attack him at his strongest point.
I don’t believe either Sun Tzu or Maj. Gen. George Pickett would agree with that.
Ketanji Brown Jackson is obviously one of those people unclear on the concept of the Bill of Rights and that “hamstringing the federal government “ is exactly the intent of them.
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March 19, 2024, 11:30 AM
darthfuster^^^^^^^^If I had 15 minutes with either of them, I could show them they believe it.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier March 19, 2024, 12:36 PM
HRKTo some extent it's been happening here with law enforcement and the FBI TYR program in conjunction with Amazons Tech departments ReKognition programs.
Software like this was likely used in the J6 investigations to find people in the crowd to arrest.
It's a lengthy article, so only posting a bit, you can get it all at the link.
Link Justice Department discloses FBI project with Amazon Rekognition tool The disclosure comes after Amazon said in 2020 that it would institute a moratorium on police use of Rekognition.
The Department of Justice has disclosed that the FBI is in the “initiation” phase of using Amazon Rekognition, an image and video analysis software that has sparked controversy for its facial recognition capabilities, according to an update to the agency’s AI inventory.
In response to questions from FedScoop, neither Amazon nor the DOJ clarified whether the FBI had access to or is using facial recognition technology, specifically, through this work. But the disclosure is notable, given that Amazon had previously announced a moratorium on police use of Rekognition.
An AI inventory released on the DOJ website discloses that the FBI has a project named “Amazon Rekognition – AWS – Project Tyr.” The description does not mention the term “facial recognition” but states that the agency is working on customizing the tool to “review and identify items containing nudity, weapons, explosives, and other identifying information.”
March 19, 2024, 04:33 PM
CPD SIGIt's Russia...
Not so much of a "1st Amendment" thing over there.
Never really was either, it's been going on since the Czars were in power. Gulags were full of people that spoke out against the (existing) Government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Riot^ a gay rock group / protesters that could sing & had instruments
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...n%20Secret%20Service.
^Spoke out and wrote against the Government and was assassinated back in '78
IIRC, there was a chairman of Parliament that just "Poof", disappeared back in 2001 or so.
There is... well, WAS a lot of Chechnyans that got wacked by the Russian Government.
There was a Female Reporter that was shot by the FSB back in 2006 who reported on the Russian Governments activities in Chechnya.
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March 19, 2024, 04:49 PM
LunaseeThe Govt: If you need 30 rounds to hunt, you suck at hunting.
The People: If you need to confiscate our guns, you suck at governing.
March 19, 2024, 06:01 PM
ScreamingCockatooAnd in the same light, Justice Jackson says the First Amendment hamstrings government...
Biden appointed this idiot that can't define what a woman is.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster.
March 19, 2024, 06:04 PM
Mars_AttacksThe last I heard the Brits don't poison you for political disagreement.
Yet.
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