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I used to love Amazon. Very convenient for shopping - reviews, prices, shipping, returns.

I'm increasingly starting to hate Amazon for shopping. I'm not sure it's an American company anymore (albeit progressive leaning). Seems like stuff I search / shop for these days just ends up with a long list of:

1) products from prc companies made in prc.
2) products at best fulfilled by Amazon (I try to only buy products that are sold by Amazon, not just shipped - I hate giving my info to fly by night 3rd parties I don't know).

To me, Amazon has become just a clearing house / distributor for PRC products.

Is there an up and coming shopping site that's similar to Amazon (the way they used to be, not how they are today). I'd gladly give up 2 day shipping to shop for products I'd actually buy.

For all intents, Amazon is just a PRC company to me now.




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Originally posted by konata88:
I used to love Amazon. Very convenient for shopping - reviews, prices, shipping, returns.

I'm increasingly starting to hate Amazon for shopping. I'm not sure it's an American company anymore (albeit progressive leaning). Seems like stuff I search / shop for these days just ends up with a long list of:

1) products from prc companies made in prc.
2) products at best fulfilled by Amazon (I try to only buy products that are sold by Amazon, not just shipped - I hate giving my info to fly by night 3rd parties I don't know).

To me, Amazon has become just a clearing house / distributor for PRC products.

Is there an up and coming shopping site that's similar to Amazon (the way they used to be, not how they are today). I'd gladly give up 2 day shipping to shop for products I'd actually buy.

For all intents, Amazon is just a PRC company to me now.
I agree with you for the most part. Unfortunately I use them more as a convenience than anything else. Their prices have also crept up on the typical stuff I buy.

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I don't think they are any worse than Walmart or Target as examples. Trump is doing his best to change the imbalance in trade but it's a tough nut to crack.

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Where else can you get quality items from brands such as Dylviw, Iwobac, Nidage, Oiiwak, Yomera, and more! Big Grin

I agree with you 100%. Many items on Amazon are dollar store items that they mark up 10x.
What also frustrates me is the fake reviews making the products seem great when they are actually junk.

P.S. the brands I listed are actual brands of items on Amazon.
 
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Shareholders own Amazon. If you do not like AMZN, dont use them. Simple as that.
 
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I've begun shopping locally much more often for two reasons: 1. Amazon's customer service has definitely taken a downward turn. Particularly relative to their delivery system: Amazon Logistics. 2. I'm tired of Amazon and other Internet sellers putting local businesses under. To the point that I'll pay a bit more from a local business before I'll buy from Amazon.

Right now I'm feeling bad because I ordered a table saw fence from Amazon, rather than my favourite local tool store, because of a $36 price difference ($176 vs. $212, after taxes). Sadly, this purchase was particularly price-sensitive, so I had no choice. Even then: If the local store had had it in stock...



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Seems like stuff I search / shop for these days just ends up with a long list of:

1) products from prc companies made in prc.
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I buy 600g tubs of Marmite from Amazon. Shipped from the UK via Royal Mail. Smile

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Amazon DOES make it awfully convenient.
A little TOO much.
With small items, free shipping, fast shipping it does make it hard to go out and shop.
With larger items or high priced items not so much as there is the sales tax and sometimes freight.
Otherwise it is pretty addicting (of the convenience) . Frown
 
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My wife and I were just discussing this, the quality of products carried is going down with the majority of returned search items being knock offs or no names.

But then I heard today that Amazon has changed to algorithms to point towards this type of item as it makes them more money.

That all being said for the majority of items I shop for my first stop is Amazon, about the only things I do not start there for is clothes and gun parts/ammo.
 
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Trying not to use them after reading stories from workers about how they are treated in the warehouses. You have to pull so many orders per day or you’re fired. One guy said he is walking 15-20 miles per day with many employees holding their urine and feces for their lunch break so they don’t get fired for not making quota.

Then there is the new ad. “I’m trans and my manager is supportive’. Shoving the SJW bullshit down our throats.



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Trying not to use them after reading stories from workers about how they are treated in the warehouses.
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There are many options available in the current job market. If Amazon employees are being mistreated they can easily go elsewhere.



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You can pretty much get anything you want on Amazon. They have high quality name brand stuff. And if you don't want that, they have the cheap Chinese knock off of the same product (which more often than not come out of the same factory.) Amazon doesn't make anything themselves (they do have stuff made for them to sell under their brands - think "Amazon Basic" or stuff like the Kindle.)

As other have said, it's very much like Walmart or Target. What they do differently is act as a front end for other sellers through their affiliate programs.

So basically Amazon is a front end. The take the order, and (maybe) ship the product out of their warehouse. But that's about it.
 
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While it may be tough, they seem to pay pretty well, and may need to in order to get the number of workers they need.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Trying not to use them after reading stories from workers about how they are treated in the warehouses.
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There are many options available in the current job market. If Amazon employees are being mistreated they can easily go elsewhere.
 
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If you can find items made in America anymore, buy them. It's the best way to impress China and the rest of our cheating trade 'partners' that we don't need their imported products, we're making our own again, thanks!

Remember the good old days when stuff was made in America, Canada or Mexico. We also complained about the latter two.

I haven't kept up, does the USMCA address that if Pelosi decides to take it to her house of morons?
 
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Jeff Bezos owns Amazon.

I saw a commercial they made recently. It was quite woke and I suppose it got ahead of all the alphabet nazis cancel everything movement. It had just about every single minority you could think of (excluding the non scaled dragon kin). It had blue haired dudes, girls looking like dudes, other dudes (maybe) and they all talked about how wonderful it was to be Jeff’s slave, ehhh shit. No that’s not right, I mean employee.

The way Bezos got ahead of this woke, retarded cancel all the shit I get emotions about movement with his commercial is brilliant.

Who owns amazon? A smart man.


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Generally speaking, Amazon is the place we use to price check stuff. More and more local store prices are comparable with Amazon, especially now that Amazon charges sales tax on everything.
 
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Here's how it works if you are a seller on Amazon:
15% commission their cut
If you join their Prime Vendor you must ship them your inventory (at your expense)
They, in turn, process the order and pack it (In any size carton they shipping people grab,with a lot of brown paper (Which adds weight in turn boosts the shipping cost to the buyer. The vendor pays that shipping cost as well.

So as you can see, the poor sucker you bought from gets less $ than Amazon/post office, in most cases.

Amazon likes rising prices, as 15% rises the $ revenue.


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I hate to give in to using them, but my money is what's at stake. I'm finding that my local plumbing wholesaler isn't as good of a deal as I thought they were.

Brand name items are cheaper, and sometimes substantially. I am matrixed into my local wholesaler at what my salesman says is their best level.

I know Amazon is bigger, but this firm has 22 branches in the Northeast.


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When prices are equal or better I'm trying to go elsewhere (eg B&H).




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Most of the things that I buy on Amazon are things that I can not find locally.



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