took it once for a kidney stone that lingered too damn long,

I don't recall any side effects,
but not having an enlarged prostate, I pissed like a pressure washer,

I swear I could have carved my name in granite with just the piss stream,


didn't help much with the stone, passed it after the script ran out



edit to add,, dream related,

if I take Mucinex DM 12 hour (the one you used to have to sign for) for a head cold etc for more than 4 days, I have very vivid horror movie type dreams,
as in the ones that wake up up going WTF was that,,,

If you are worried about prostate cancer, you should have your vitamin D level checked.

Cancer cases increase as you get further from the equator. Also dark complexion reduces vitamin D absorption and as we age, the absorption level decreases.

I have had two kidney stones and took Uva Ursi to get rid of them.

https://www.vitaminshoppe.com/...7lusMlEaAs_kEALw_wcB

I also have interesting, vivid dreams almost every night. I sort of look forward to them.

However, I haven’t even had a prostate gland in over 10 years, so I dunno.

Maybe it is just REM sleep.

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Originally posted by Ripley:
If the prostate gets to the point a TURP is recommended, look at alternatives. The TURP will limit your options should prostate cancer develop, an extremely common male condition.

I expect vivid dreaming. When I hit the sack, I think "Take me on a trip upon your magic sailing ship."

Shit, now you tell me. Just had the TURP last Thursday.....

Flomax made a huge improvement in my daily life.

Now sleeping through the night.

No dreams for me, It could be just because your sleep is not being interrupted. You stay in REM long enough to remember your dreams

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Originally posted by BigCity:
Shit, now you tell me. Just had the TURP last Thursday.....

There are variations of TURP's which may limit options but the most effective is still available, prostatectomy. Worst case scenario, you should be covered.

Ended up on Flomax at age 40 and stayed on it for about 10 years until insurance required me to go on generic medicine. Since I have always been a dreamer, I can't say that I noticed any increase of dream frequency.

My understanding of the situation - (experts step in and set me straight)

Virtually all men will have prostate enlargement as they they age. The prostate is a small, donut shaped organ that is at the base of the bladder and it goes around the urethra. It makes the fluid that the sperm swim in. When it gets bigger it squeezes the bladder, reducing capacity and it also squeezes the urethra, restricting the flow (think bagel vs. donut). Result is a more frequent need to empty the bladder and slower, reduced flow rate due to the restriction.

I have tried Lisinopril and Alfuzosin, both are supposed(?) to relax the prostate and make things work more like they should. This has been my experience. Sometimes one works better than the other. Still, my prostate continued its slow growth. A recent change has been to take Finasteride in addition to one of the others. Finasteride is actually supposed to shrink the prostate. The downside is that it takes a few months to start being effective. I think both are true. It has taken 2-3 months (for me) to have an effect. Bladder capacity seems to be increasing and frequency has decreased.

Your mileage might vary —-

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by sigmoid:
Only side effect is a dry load

What is the world does that mean?

^^^^^
Yep. No dream spikes, vivid dream, etc. It is a wonder drug. Getting up six or more times a night was killing. me.

A couple of years ago I went under general anaesthesia for 3 hours for a medical procedure. As often happens to older men, the anaesthesia shut down my bladder and I had to be catheterised for a few days, after which I was prescribed Flomax. For two or three weeks, no issues.

Then one night I woke up suddenly just as a little girl, maybe 7 or 8, burst into my bedroom! She was stumbling forward as if she were being chased. The sight was as real as real can be. I can't emphasise that enough. If a real 8 year old girl stumbled into my room the experience would have been indistinguishable from what I experienced. As I leaned up out of bed staring at her she... just... dissolved. My heart was banging against my ribs.

Over the next few months this kind of thing happened to me a half dozen times. My next visitor was male... shadowy... I could not quite make out his features, and same thing happened. I actually yelled out loud at him, "Hey!" and started to lunge when he too-- poof!-- dissolved.

At this point, I did not need the Flomax any more, I stopped taking the drug altogether, and I have not had any such "visitors" since.

Somehow, the dream was so amazingly clear and vivid that the "reality" of it apparently woke me up and the dream bled into reality for a few moments. Very weird.

So, just an update. This medication continues to work wonders for me. Regarding its effects on the iris, yes, frequently, at the end of the day, I do experience blurred vision, and since this started shortly after starting this med, I imagine that's the reason, but given the drug's benefits for me, I'll take this side effect ith no complaints.

The vivid dreams continue. Last night I was on a cruise ship. headed into a storm. Also last night, I had one of those dreams where you run but can't seem to get anywhere.

Not too long after I posted this, I had a real doozy. Started out as sort of a The Last Samurai thing I was part of an army on the field of battle. Foot soldiers with nothing but long pikes for weapons against mounted cavalry. All of the rest of my army was slaughtered. I climbed up on this platform and some of the cavalry dismounted and came after me, demanding that I "yield". One of them got close to me. I ran him through with my pike, then picked up his sword. The next man who came after me, I cut him in two, from left shoulder to right hip. Two pieces. I kicked both pieces off the platform. I turned around and there was this general or commander and he bopped me between the eyes with a pike. Next thing I know, I wake up in a bakery. There's a guy who tells me that all prisoners must work, and I was to be trained as a baker. He looked like another slave. I'm bitching to him about how the king is an asshole. He goes off and in walks the commander who knocked me out. He spoke in this Yoda-like fashion. "Bravely you fought," he says to me, and stuff like that. He smiles at me and I ask why. He says "The man you complain to- a son of the king, he is." I asked "'A' son?" He says "Many sons has the king. A bastard, this one. Dresses like a prince he does not, no?"

Are they not worried I will poison their bread, I ask. No poison is to be found within a thousand miles of the city, he tells me.

I ask what all this means for me. He tells me that the bakery is outside the walls of the city. Many years ago, there was a huge fire which started at a bakery and many people were killed, much of the city destroyed, so the king decreed that all bread should be baked outside of the city and then brought in by horse and wagon. He tells me that I will accompany the bastard son on one of these trips, and at a deserted spot on the road, men will appear and execute me. I ask him if there's anything I can do to save myself.

He puts his hands on my shoulders, smiles and says "Yes, you can fly with the buffalo." He tells me these are bombers which will bomb my city, but before I reach the target, I will be able to parachute out to safety. He tells me the king forbids parachutes on his planes because he considers them to be a sign of cowardice, but the commander will stow a parachute for me.

Why are you doing this for me, I ask, and once again, he smiles and says "Bravely you fought."

The last thing I remember is that I'm on a tarmac in bright sunlight, walking towards a flight of B-25 bombers idling on the runway. Their windscreens are covered with the thick, matted hair you see on the heads of buffalo. Though he told me a parachute would be stashed on board for me, I am actually carrying the parachute in my hand.

And then, I woke up...

Every night. I have these very vivid, involved dreams every night since beginning this medication.

Even when I took it, I never had dreams. Probably less than 10 dreams in my life. Or that I remember when I awaken. When I did remember, Always had something to do about trains, and not being able to get out of the way, or someone’s chasing me and my legs don’t work. Where’s Freud?

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Originally posted by bald1:
Don't recall vivid dreams when I was taking it. Had issues with it so got switched to Terazosin.

I was prescribed Hytrin (Terazosin) many years ago at first as a combination prostate assist and a blood pressure med. Had to begin with a 5mg capsule at first and work up in several days to the 10mg size. I've been taking it ever since, one capsule a day (pretty little robin's egg blue).

have not been prescribed FloMax, but I do often have dreams--sometimes I even remember them. Maybe all the prostate drugs have this effect?

flashguy

I started wearing Depends to bed 12 years ago at 52. I've been taking a generic version of Flowmax for about 15 years. My prostate is huge and encroaching on my bladder. I blame my pot belly on my huge prostate. I had the TURP procedure done 7 years ago and they found traces of cancer. My flow still wasn't up to snuff so the urologist used these nice, long tapered stainless steel rods to go up my wheezer to break up any scar tissue

Flow is better but my wheezer is now broken. Bent carrot? No, we're talking stand at this urinal and pee in the one next to you. A scallop on the side of my johnson. That in itself took away vital length. My wheezer now rsides in my scrotum and is hard to find when you have to go. And that is frequently and painful.

Dreams? Never had any I could say Flowmax caused. You have better ones than me. I only dream about restrooms and bushes and God, please don't let me find one.

Another subject for study that I won't get into is retrograde orgasms after TURP.

Men, enjoy your water works while you can. If I was a horse they'd put me down.

I brought this up with my pharmacist and he confirmed the Cialis with Flowmax is dispensed to help, and can reduce prostate size. He also compared the $25 a week cost of Cialis to it's competitor at $40 a week. Thats $1,300 a year.

For a generic I might raise the issue at the next clinic appointment. Doc is browbeating me for another biopsy and the MRI looks to be a less invasive method. He's all about test numbers, there is no debating him when it gets down to it. "Do as I say" is his attitude. I reply, the diabetes will kill me years before prostate cancer will. Lets work on that. He ignores me.

Choose your primary with care. He's a pill pusher, not a physician.

Well, the doctor who prescribed it for me isn't my primary anything. I went to see him one time and his attitude was such shit, I'm not going back. the stuff he prescribed has alleviated a whole host of symptoms I was having, symptoms so pronounced, I thought I might have rectal cancer or bladder cancer, etc.

Besides, isn't Cialis for guys who can't get or maintain erection? This is not (as of yet) an issue for me, praise Allah.

I started this thread to inquire if anyone else taking Flomax is having these short story-worthy dreams.

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Originally posted by Sigfest:
Even when I took it, I never had dreams. Probably less than 10 dreams in my life. Or that I remember when I awaken.

All humans dream, many of them do not remember. Despite all the psychoanalytical stuff about the interpretation of dreams, it's my understanding that it doesn't matter if you remember them or not. Your brain runs every second you're alive, and nature has made your sleep- in part- a training period for you. That's too much to go into right now.

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Flomax

Study of Flowmax and Bad Dreams

Flomax and Bad dreams - a phase IV clinical study of FDA data
Summary:
Bad dreams is found among people who take Flomax, especially for people who are male, 60+ old, have been taking the drug for < 1 month.

The phase IV clinical study analyzes which people take Flomax and have Bad dreams. It is created by eHealthMe based on reports of 44,508 people who have side effects when taking Flomax from the FDA, and is updated regularly. You can use the study as a second opinion to make health care decisions.

With medical big data and AI algorithms, eHealthMe enables everyone to run phase IV clinical trial to detect adverse drug outcomes and monitor effectiveness. Our original studies have been referenced on 600+ peer-reviewed medical publications including The Lancet, Mayo Clinic Proceedings, and Nature. Most recently, phase IV clinial trails for COVID 19 vaccines have been added, check here.

Charts, data, etc at the link..

Yeah, I saw that study. As I stated in my initial post, these aren't- for the most part- nightmares. They are actually interesting and entertaining. Last night, I dreamt I worked in an optometrist's office and I was measuring a little dog for glasses. "Which is better? One, or two?"

"Bark! Bark!"

"OK, two..."

^^^



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