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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
I'm not. I'm not fine with it in the least. Bump stocks are dumb though.
Yeah, if it doesn't appeal to me, I'm totally cool with banning items other people might enjoy. 
Uhhh...yeah, ya think? ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
Fellas, the Pres has been four or five steps ahead since he was a candidate. He has earned the ability with me to at least see what he has in mind. We have a habit of ALWAYS jumping to Defcon 48 when we see things we don't know about. If he is going to support bad changes, I'll deal with it then when we actually see what he has in mind. | |||
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A Grateful American |
I listened closely to his speech. Taken at face value, he pretty much just crapped on the leftest "plans for bans". Go listen to it again. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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Info Guru |
Yep, keep in mind that they had well more than 60 votes in the Senate for a bump stock ban after Vegas, but the dems kept adding things like an AWB to the bill so the whole thing just collapsed. It could very well go the same way again this time. The dems could care less about bump stocks or enhanced background checks, they want a ban and may very well not settle for anything less. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
My initial thought when seeing this was that he was likely just stringing these leftists along the same the NRA did when they called for a review of the regulations. After all, Trump did not mention anything about new laws in regards to bump stocks. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Ammoholic |
This. Hey look!!! Something shiny! They get all excited for a moment, maybe actually pass something, then forget about it. If we do have to give something up, I think it will be like DACA, if you really want these bump stock thingies, fine I want xyz. He seems to be one step ahead, always, even when it seems he's put his entire foot all the way down his throat. It's all for show, or a small concession to be negotiated for a bigger prize. That way they can run home to California and New York and claim a victory and the American people can laugh their asses off. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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delicately calloused |
What would banning of bump stocks have done to prevent the school shootings? What would universal background checks have done to prevent Sandy Hook, Douglas high or the several church shootings? What would waiting times have done? Nothing, nothing, nothing. In all cases signs were ignored by the authorities the knuckleheads in society want to give more power to. It's almost as if no one really wants to solve the problem......hmmmmm. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Member |
This is also how I think it should be approached. You want this? We want that. That's compromising, don't give up anything without something in return. For example, you want bump stocks banned, we want teachers and administrators allowed to CCW in schools. You want to up the age limit for buying AR's? We want the removal of all gun and magazine bans at the state level. ---------------------------------- "These things you say we will have, we already have." "That's true. I ain't promising you nothing extra." | |||
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| Internet Guru |
I don't see why we have to give anything up. School shootings are going to continue and we are going to run out of rights to give away. If this were truly regarded as a crisis, we could have armed guards in every school by the end of the week. Fundamentally changing society seems to be the long route for fortifying schools against attack. | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
They already are allowed. Or at least, the feds aren't stopping the states from allowing it. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Member |
Ok, point taken, but I think you see where I'm going with the main point of my argument. ---------------------------------- "These things you say we will have, we already have." "That's true. I ain't promising you nothing extra." | |||
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Member |
Do any of you all listen to "The Student of the Gun"? (I listen to the podcast 1-2x a week from the iPhone podcast app. Its also on IHeart Radio and I guess on-line elswhere) In my opinion Paul Markel has some very good feedback on this (And other matters related to so many parties trying to basically take away our liberties and grow government) http://www.studentofthegunradio.com/ | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Indeed I do. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Member |
A little here and a little there is a bad thing. Pretty soon your a mile down the road wondering how you got there. The focus should be on strengthening and enforcing the existing laws. | |||
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| Member |
Trump needs a bump stock put to his nuts for even considering such a thing. | |||
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| Member |
Throw in Chuck the Schmuk Schumer and I'm good with the deal. ********* "Some people are alive today because it's against the law to kill them". | |||
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Member |
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/n...n-las-vegas-shooting | |||
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Unhyphenated American |
https://imgur.com/gallery/TO8BGgw?  __________________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. Richard M Nixon It's nice to be important, it's more important to be nice. Billy Joe Shaver NRA Life Member | |||
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| Member |
If you read what this actually says, it does not call for banning bumpstocks. It calls for expeditiously ruling about devices that turn a legal gun into an illegal one. Let's see what the final rule looks like before jumping to any conclusions. | |||
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| Freethinker |
Okay, I missed it (this one, anyway) by a month. I don’t have a slide fire stock, have no desire to own one, and believe they’re a ridiculous waste of money and ammunition, and, in fact—like most features that permit high volumes of poorly-aimed fire—actually reduce the shooter’s effectiveness. I will, however, remind everyone in the “It’s okay because it doesn’t affect me personally” crowd that that’s been true of at least a few gun owners and every single infringement of our gun rights that has ever been enacted. ► 6.4/93.6 “It is peace for our time.” — Neville the Appeaser | |||
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