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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Do you believe the US citizens working in remote consulates around the globe, Mongolia for example, can guarantee mail delivery within 5 days? USPS can’t deliver mail across a state in 5 days often

I was in Europe in 1984 and I voted absentee.
We were told to make sure they were returned early, in plenty of time to be counted on election day.

I've voted absentee several times, while in the military and as a civilian. I was informed when they had to be returned by and I complied. It's not difficult.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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scotus screwed the pooch on this which I suppose was their intent.

The intent seems to be to get the Congress to do it's job:

I believe that this is the case. But, I won't hold my breath, as Congress hasn't been doing it's job for 30-40 years. Why start now?

The problem is absentee is differnt than mail in.
If I’m in the military or otherwise going to be not available to vote in person on election DAY then I need to positively request a ballot. Mailing one out to anybody that can dog a mirror is some BS.

I moved to florid from CA in 2021. We went to great pains 1) leave before sleeping 180 nights in CA. 2) remove our vehicles from the CA DMV records. There is a painfull process for this and 3) remove ourselves from voting rolls. YET, the local registrar in one of the top 10 biggest counties by population mailed a 2024 presidential ballot out to my wife’s name. And also to our FL address mailed her CA DL renewal this year. We had to provide new address when telling them we were divorcing that state so we know they had received it correctly for her.

The possibly for corruption is only outweighed by .gov employee incompetence.

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Originally posted by oddball:

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Originally posted by slosig:
Suppose a lefty postal worker backdated a stack of ballots, then introduced them into the postal system. Would this not be fraud? Suppose someone who is not even a postal worker got hold of or made a stamp to hand cancel mail, did up a stack of ballots, then added them to an unattended box on a loading dock (or added several boxes). Would this not constitute fraud?

A number of USPS whistleblowers came out in late 2020 in Michigan and Wisconsin to relay eyewitness accounts of backdating stacks of mail-in ballots, tampered with, and just tossed away by USPS workers getting paid by the Democrat Party.

Who were these whistleblowers? I never heard this story.

Turns out Barrett was a huge mistake.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
Turns out Barrett was a huge mistake.

You want decisions based on feelings or strict construction because you can't have both. She was solid in her rationale. Even Kavanaugh's dissent strayed outside of the written law. He said voters ought to know the winners on election day for them to have confidence in the process, but there is no law that said the votes cannot be counted after then, if the ballots were voted before the cutoff.

Agree with above. But the problem is this makes the USPS the guarantor of last minute ballot handling. That's also when all the jiggery pokery takes place.

I'm supposed to 'have confidence' in the USPS?

Pretty much sums it up.

Okay to Be Late

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Originally posted by Ogie:
Who were these whistleblowers? I never heard this story.

This info, along with suitcases under tables, ballot box stuffing, came out weeks after the election and from what I recall, a number of sources like this one I just found- https://www.foxnews.com/politi...s-election-12-2-2020

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Originally posted by oddball:

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Originally posted by Ogie:
Who were these whistleblowers? I never heard this story.

This info, along with suitcases under tables, ballot box stuffing, came out weeks after the election and from what I recall, a number of sources like this one I just found- https://www.foxnews.com/politi...s-election-12-2-2020

Okay.....that's not good. I don't see that anything ever became of that though, not to say it didn't happen.

I don't like the mail in ballots. The verification isn't there as it is with in-person. The potential for fraud is unbelievable.

For anyone arguing there isn't election fraud, I compare it to shoplifting. While only a small fraction get caught, the problem is that a large majority isn't caught. However, the inventory keep disappearing.

Absentee ballots are not the same thing. They were rarely used because people actually voted in person.

I also don't have a problem with absentee ballot being postmarked prior to an election. However USPS is going to stop postmarking on the date they receive it but rather the date it first get to an automated process facility. Whose to say, there isn't a bunch of ballots being printed left and right when they figure out how many is needed.

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Okay.....that's not good. I don't see that anything ever became of that though, not to say it didn't happen.

Do a search on Traverse City-Project Veritas-2020 election. Basically dropped because it wouldn't have affected the election based on Mi. law not because it didn't happen.

To be clear, I'm against mail-in voting! I think early voting is fine and that is how we have been voting the last few years. When you get older with mobility issues it helps when you don't have to stand in a long line outside in the cold although that's how we have been voting for decades up until the last few years.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
Turns out Barrett was a huge mistake.

The four female SCOTUS justices now vote as a block, supported by the coward John Roberts.

I would love to still be able to get JALLEN's take on this. He followed SCOTUS closely.

I still miss that guy.