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Stupid question of the day.

How do submarines navigate the oceans without running into under ground mountain ranges and shallow water? A combination of charts and sonar? Doesn't sonar give away your position, and thus, boomers are unlikely to use it unless necessary?

Do submarines use GPS guidance under water, and does it work under water?

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In 2005, the USS San Francisco ran into an undersea mountain at flank speed.

 
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Just a guess: Extremely accurate underwater charts.


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Charts, periodic GPS fix, and onboard inertial nav systems.

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Really big windows and underwater binoculars.

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Someone gingerly reaches their foot out front along the bottom of the ocean floor and "ooches" with their toes.




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I think we have some retired submariners who will chime in. But to answer your question, they use INS, Inertial Navigation Systems, along with surely other newer top secret systems. INS, once programmed and set exactly, use gyros. As the days and weeks go by that degrades, I'll assume that a sub will sneak up to periscope depth and grab a fresh GPS fix and go again.

I think over many decades of sub operations, immense amounts of time and resources have been spent mapping the oceans, and those charts are pretty darn good.

I'm hoping some sub sailors will enlighten us to what they can legally say, I find it fascinating.

EDIT: I typed too slow, others have posted, but I'll leave my comments stand.
 
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I don't believe that GPS radio signals can penetrate very deep into water.
 
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Charts, periodic GPS fix, and onboard inertial nav systems.

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I think over many decades of sub operations, immense amounts of time and resources have been spent mapping the oceans, and those charts are pretty darn good.


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In 2005, the USS San Francisco ran into an undersea mountain at flank speed.

Why does it not surprise me that a boat named San Francisco was seriously off course?
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In 2005, the USS San Francisco ran into an undersea mountain at flank speed.

Why does it not surprise me that a boat named San Francisco was seriously off course?
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Charts, periodic GPS fix, and onboard inertial nav systems.

Clancy man, Clancy!!!

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Plus SONAR?


Sonar is like tracers for infantry. Wink






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In 2005, the USS San Francisco ran into an undersea mountain at flank speed.



They eventually got that boat back in service, ( well, at least it ran and could submerge some, ) but mostly for PR purposes.

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