The reason that Independence Day wasn’t changed to the first Monday in July

July 03, 2024, 07:57 AM

Pipe Smoker

I don’t know, but i suspect that it’s solely because the holiday is commonly called “The Fourth of July “.

And I’m glad it hasn’t been tampered with!

July 03, 2024, 08:23 AM

Balzé Halzé

Yeah, because only one day is Independence Day.

July 03, 2024, 11:02 AM

12131

Yeah, July 4th is The Day. They didn’t declare it on the 1st Monday in July. I'm confused as to why this is even a question.

July 03, 2024, 11:07 AM

egregore

Veterans Day is also only on November 11th, the day of the armistice that ended World War I.

Now, what probably will happen, because the Fourth falls on Thursday, is make a 4-day weekend out of it, so I'd expect government offices to be closed Friday.

July 03, 2024, 11:18 AM

V-Tail

quote:
Originally posted by 12131:

I'm confused as to why this is even a question.

Maybe because "they" have a track record of fucking with the calendar. A lot of historical days have been changed during my lifetime.

We used to have Lincoln's birthday on February 12, and Washington's on February 22. Now it's some "Presidents' Day," without naming the presidents.

Memorial Day was May 30.

Armistice Day disappeared.

At least they haven't changed New Year's Day, it's still January 1.

July 03, 2024, 11:18 AM

Balzé Halzé

And let us never forget the man who made it a reality.

https://x.com/3YearLetterman/s.../1808469159472136374

July 03, 2024, 11:29 AM

egregore

July 03, 2024, 11:36 AM

RogueJSK

quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
Now, what probably will happen, because the Fourth falls on Thursday, is make a 4-day weekend out of it, so I'd expect government offices to be closed Friday.

Not around here, although like at most workplaces (even private businesses) it'll be a skeleton crew with many folks using vacation days on Friday.

July 03, 2024, 12:30 PM

12131

quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
Maybe because "they" have a track record of fucking with the calendar. A lot of historical days have been changed during my lifetime.

We used to have Lincoln's birthday on February 12, and Washington's on February 22. Now it's some "Presidents' Day," without naming the presidents.

Lincoln's BD is still Feb 12. It was never a national holiday. Washington's BD was a national holiday. I don't see the big deal about having a President's Day on the 3rd Monday in February to honor both.

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Memorial Day was May 30.

Its origin is not so clear cut, https://time.com/5836444/black-memorial-day/

But, when you talk about Independence Day, Christmas, or New Year Day, there is no doubt what day of the year each is. It's not the 1st Monday in July, the 4th Wednesday in December, or the 1st Monday of the new year (although, according to AI, it was for the year 0001).

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Armistice Day disappeared.

What's wrong with Veterans Day?

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At least they haven't changed New Year's Day, it's still January 1.

It's not moving anywhere.

July 03, 2024, 12:50 PM

GrumpyMCO

3YLM for the win

July 03, 2024, 12:54 PM

vthoky

quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Yeah, because only one day is Independence Day.

A good friend of mine said Independence Day came twice two years ago -- once on July 4, and again when his divorce was finalized.

July 03, 2024, 12:56 PM

PASig

I find it kind of ironic that the UK is having their national election this 4th of July...

July 03, 2024, 01:38 PM

honestlou

quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
And let us never forget the man who made it a reality.

https://x.com/3YearLetterman/s.../1808469159472136374

I’m guessing you found that on the internet, so it must be true.

July 03, 2024, 01:50 PM

V-Tail

quote:
Originally posted by 12131:

Lincoln's BD is still Feb 12. It was never a national holiday. Washington's BD was a national holiday.

I don't know for sure whether or not Lincoln's birthday was a national holiday, but I do know that it was a school holiday and there was no mail delivery, back when I was in elementary school.

July 03, 2024, 02:15 PM

monoblok

The 4th of July is the birthday to end all birthdays. So don't even think about fucking with it. And that's all I have to say about this.

July 03, 2024, 03:10 PM

kkina

I always suspected that Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were in fact one and the same person.

July 03, 2024, 03:46 PM

TomS

“The Second Day of July 1776, will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America.

I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more.

You will think me transported with Enthusiasm but I am not. -- I am well aware of the Toil and Blood and Treasure, that it will cost Us to maintain this Declaration, and support and defend these States. -- Yet through all the Gloom I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory. I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Posterity will triumph in that Days Transaction, even altho We should rue it, which I trust in God We shall not.”

- John Adams

July 03, 2024, 07:38 PM

nhtagmember

quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
And let us never forget the man who made it a reality.

https://x.com/3YearLetterman/s.../1808469159472136374

July 04, 2024, 07:56 AM

sigfreund

I went to grades 1-12 schools in seven different places from the early 1950s to the mid-’60s, and in none was 12 February*, Lincoln’s birthday, a holiday of any sort. February 22, Washington’s birthday, was, and it was always celebrated on that day: the 22d. I clearly remember the practices because I was always disappointed that we did not have the 12th off as well.

It used to annoy me when today was simply referred to as “July 4th” rather than Independence Day, but no longer. I don’t expect anyone under the age of 60 (or older) to understand what it signifies other than a day off that sometimes falls on an inconvenient time of the week to turn it into a long weekend.

* And Charles Darwin’s.

July 05, 2024, 09:15 AM

sonnydaze

quote:
Originally posted by vthoky:

A good friend of mine said Independence Day came twice two years ago -- once on July 4, and again when his divorce was finalized.

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Quite understandable...