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Cat Whisperer |
Did anyone catch it? He debated the host of "The Young Turks". It was an absolute massacre... I dont know what that guy was thinking when he agreed to debate Shapiro. Well worth the hour. I'm also convinced Ben is some sort of robot, nobody can spout facts off that fast and accurately ------------------------------------ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246R | ||
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Cenk is a tissue thin decepticon. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
I'm gonna have to disagree with you a bit. I think Cenk Uygur the host of "The Young Turks", did a good job for his side of things. Ben Shapiro was great, and I agree with Ben on all of these things but I think that Cenk comes across as a reasonable advocate for the other side. He doesn't come across as "unhinged". This made it a good debate rather than the "absolute massacre" you see on a nightly basis from Tucker Carlson with his weak minded guests. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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The Joy Maker |
Decepticons are actually kinda cool, in a bad guy way. Cenk is just a sentient shitsack. 
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| Cat Whisperer |
I dont think so... Ben had statistics and coherent arguments, Cenk wasnt, at all from what I saw. ------------------------------------ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246R | |||
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I think both sides thought their guy won. Cenk pandered to emotion and Google. Ben unloaded 10 times the amount of data Cenk did, from my view, Ben won by a mile. I thought it was great. I think I'd like to see Milo debate Cenk. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
OK. Who, on the left, would have done a better job? "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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The problem for the left is when you look at past policy and the results it becomes problematic and difficult to use facts and figures to your advantage. For lefties it is all about the feels. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Conservatives need to better weave emotional appeals into their arguments. The facts are on our side, so link them to the real-world effects on people. Trump did a solid job of this I thought on his last O-care speech. “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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Now in Florida |
What is it about liberals that they have to present themselves as so smug and condescending all the time? I can't even listen to Cenk for more than a couple minutes before I just want to punch him in the face. | |||
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Cenk got him with the big government vs. small government argument. He's right that many conservatives do like big government and restrictions when it favors their viewpoint. Shapiro had a decent rebuttal, but ultimately Cenk is right. | |||
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Absolutely correct. Cenk, like all current socialists (i.e. Dem's) simply talks out of his ass about feel good nonsense like free college and Medicare for all. Although there is 'zero' rational means to economically support such programs, neither Cenk or the people who think he has a clue care about any of that. Reality for many has simply left the building for good. And for the record, I am a white voter living in the south. As such, I'd like to send am emphatic FU to Cenk and his racist accusations. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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| Cat Whisperer |
and they present their arguments as common sense. "OOOOOOOFFFFF COURSE I WOULD WANT _______ WHO WOULDNT?!?!?!11!" ------------------------------------ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246R | |||
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Chip away the stone |
Ben is incredibly quick on his feet, and well prepared. Cenk is much more akin to a run-of-the-mill media pundit. Not trying to derail the thread, but this seems as good a place to post this... Here's 3 hours of Sam Harris winning, as I recall, every single argument against Cenk, mostly on the topic of Islam. Harris is one of those rare intellectually honest liberals, a.k.a. a "Classical Liberal," who's brutally honest about Islam. You can see a times how frustrated he gets with Cenk's thick skull. It takes awhile to get into the meat of the discussion. Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVl3BJoEoAU | |||
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No one. They don't have a position on anything that will withstand scrutiny, which is why they misstate conservative positions(like immigration) and/or use hysteria(global warming! cutting welfare!) to make their arguments. .This message has been edited. Last edited by: TigerDore, | |||
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Our founding fathers were classic liberals. Most of the posters on this forum are classic liberals. In other words, conservatives. . | |||
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Modern liberalism summed up in one sentence. Well done, sir. . | |||
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"An absolute massacre"? Good Lord, talk about an objective opinion. I appreciate that that wasn't included in the thread title, which would have made this a complete click-bait thread. Year V | |||
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How about this. Ben won the debate on the facts, Cenk won the debate on mental masturbation. So in essence, they both won with their constituents. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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