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Canada/Trudeau bans 'assault weapons'.....

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May 01, 2020, 03:44 PM
RogueJSK
Canada/Trudeau bans 'assault weapons'.....
So... It's not a feature-based ban like the US assault weapon ban in 1994. It's a ban on specifically named rifles, including AR15s, M14s, Mini-14s, CZ Scorpions, Sig 55Xs, and Vz. 58s. (AKs were already banned by name before.)

All the other similar semiauto rifles are fine, as long as they're not specifically named.

Therefore, Canadians can't buy an AK or AR, but they can still buy something like a Type 87 or a SCAR 16s, because they're not specifically an AK or AR (or a direct clone) even though they're functionally nearly identical. Roll Eyes



May 01, 2020, 03:45 PM
Leemur
quote:
Originally posted by smlsig:
quote:
Originally posted by tacfoley:
Shoot, I just noticed my post count has passed 10,000.

Can't offer any of you a karma kind of thing, since you've all got everything you could ever want, and you wouldn't want anything that I could give you.

Except, maybe, my deepest and heartfeltest thanks for putting up with me all these years, and I really do mean that.


Tac I think many would agree with me that although we don’t always see eye to eye we enjoy your point of view from the other side of the pond.


Absolutely this. You have a perspective that we wouldn’t otherwise get while still being what is obviously a freedom loving person. Don’t ever change bud.
May 01, 2020, 03:49 PM
Boss1
Ummm...has it even been released what weapons the Nova Scotia murder used?

As posted elsewhere...from what has been released, its either:

A. Their licensing requirements of course fail miserably against determined criminal(s), or

B. The firearms used didn't 'fit' the narrative (weren't some evil so-called assault-somethingerother').


One would think someone who literally has control over a military would know at least the very basics of firearms, their usage and tactical deployment. For example, the 5.56 is a significant step down power compared to its predecessors like the 7.62 and 30-06. But no matter, they obviously don't care...facts get their way of their agenda.

Boss


A real life Sisyphus...
"It's not the critic who counts..." TR
Exodus 23.2: Do not follow the crowd in doing wrong...
Despite some people's claims to the contrary, 5 lbs. is actually different than 12 lbs.
It's never simple/easy.
May 01, 2020, 03:52 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by tacfoley:
Shoot, I just noticed my post count has passed 10,000.

Can't offer any of you a karma kind of thing, since you've all got everything you could ever want, and you wouldn't want anything that I could give you.

Except, maybe, my deepest and heartfeltest thanks for putting up with me all these years, and I really do mean that.


Cheers. Glad you are here.




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May 01, 2020, 03:55 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
So... It's not a feature-based ban like the US assault weapon ban in 1994. It's a ban on specifically named rifles, including AR15s, M14s, Mini-14s, CZ Scorpions, Sig 55Xs, and Vz. 58s. (AKs were already banned by name before.)

All the other similar semiauto rifles are fine, as long as they're not specifically named.

Therefore, Canadians can't buy an AK or AR, but they can still buy something like a Type 87 or a SCAR 16s, because they're not specifically an AK or AR even though they're functionally nearly identical. Roll Eyes




I should get an AK. I should have gotten one when they were super cheap.

I wouldn't mind a SCAR, either, but they've never been cheap.




The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything.
May 01, 2020, 04:50 PM
TSE
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
So... It's not a feature-based ban like the US assault weapon ban in 1994. It's a ban on specifically named rifles, including AR15s, M14s, Mini-14s, CZ Scorpions, Sig 55Xs, and Vz. 58s. (AKs were already banned by name before.)

All the other similar semiauto rifles are fine, as long as they're not specifically named.

Therefore, Canadians can't buy an AK or AR, but they can still buy something like a Type 87 or a SCAR 16s, because they're not specifically an AK or AR (or a direct clone) even though they're functionally nearly identical. Roll Eyes



Close but worse. They also include a little undefined "or variants of" in the list. There has never been a definition of what this means and it has at times included .22lr look alikes or even unrelated firearms (i.e. Barrett M82 variants include bolt action guns, SVD is listed as a variant of an AK-74 etc). The lists are specific but the variants are a minefield.
Read the Order in council (http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2020/2020-05-01-x3/html/sor-dors96-eng.html) Note they even state that they will hit the guns we replace the prohibited guns with.


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May 01, 2020, 04:52 PM
bigdeal
I wonder if Canadians will ever elect a 'man' as prime minister again. This guy is such a pussy. Though they won't, Canadians need to start their own "I will not comply" organization. I'm positive they could make little Justin cry.




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May 01, 2020, 05:01 PM
Ryanp225
Justin is a cuck.
May 01, 2020, 05:32 PM
46and2
We should have just annexed Canada long ago.
May 01, 2020, 05:35 PM
DennisM
quote:
Originally posted by 46and2:
We should have just annexed Canada long ago.


We gave it a shot, once. They burned our capital to the ground and sent a good chunk of our Navy to the bottom of the ocean.
May 01, 2020, 05:38 PM
smschulz

May 01, 2020, 05:46 PM
PowerBook
Never let a crisis go to waste...
May 01, 2020, 05:47 PM
46and2
quote:
Originally posted by DennisM:
quote:
Originally posted by 46and2:
We should have just annexed Canada long ago.

We gave it a shot, once. They burned our capital to the ground and sent a good chunk of our Navy to the bottom of the ocean.

True.
May 01, 2020, 05:50 PM
Skins2881
Was checking out FB Group CanadianGunNutz it reads just like my 2a groups. Lots of very pissed off Canucks right now. Lots of #WeWillNotComply comments. I really feel sorry for them.

This gem was on there:





Jesse

Sic Semper Tyrannis
May 01, 2020, 05:56 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by 46and2:
We should have just annexed Canada long ago.

And, bring about the end of the USA as we know it? No thanks.


Q






May 01, 2020, 06:03 PM
Boss1
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
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That didn't take long.

It's very interesting that what firearms were used has been kept so under wraps...

Boss


A real life Sisyphus...
"It's not the critic who counts..." TR
Exodus 23.2: Do not follow the crowd in doing wrong...
Despite some people's claims to the contrary, 5 lbs. is actually different than 12 lbs.
It's never simple/easy.
May 01, 2020, 06:14 PM
braillediver
They should ban fake police cars. The one he had looked perfect- How did he have it made?

What did he use in the shooting? The AR in the article is from Utah.


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May 01, 2020, 06:20 PM
airsoft guy
quote:
Originally posted by Boss1:
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
[FLASH_VIDEO]<iframe frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/8fV-i3QDR6g" width="560"></iframe>[/FLASH_VIDEO]


That didn't take long.

It's very interesting that what firearms were used has been kept so under wraps...

Boss


Well you know how it is, homedude used guns that were already illegal, or at least illegal for him to have, and half of his kills were via arson, and the ones he shot he tricked into thinking he was a cop so it made it pretty easy to kill them. The important thing is, there are people out there who like guns, and we just can't have that, so we need to punish them.



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May 01, 2020, 06:41 PM
Sigmund
quote:
Originally posted by Boss1:
Ummm...has it even been released what weapons the Nova Scotia murder used?...



Not yet. All I've seen are reports of two semi auto handguns (he may have stolen one from the LEO he shot) and a rifle or two. One may have been - shudder - a MILITARY STYLE ASSAULT RIFLE.

These reports imply that one or more of the guns came from the US, which will send Gabby Giffords into a drooling frenzy.
May 01, 2020, 06:55 PM
rscalzo
As per one report....

Police said the gunman had several semi-automatic handguns and at least two semi-automatic rifles, one of which was described by witnesses as a military-style assault weapon.

This went on for 12 hours????? Thankfully no one could defend themselves. They downplay all the fires he set...including two marked cars.


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Epping, NH

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