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Originally posted by cmr076:
Zaino brothers wax is the absolute best. Period. They are a smaller outfit, have their own chemists, are located in NY, and really give a shit about the product they're putting out. It's all I use on my car.

Also, the owner is a close personal friend. He takes it personally when people use his product. If you aren't happy, Sal will make it right.

I've been interested in Zaino for quite a few years, just never pulled the trigger. Guess this year I will!

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Originally posted by JasonATI:
I've used Zaino for about 15 years and it is great, lasts a long long time and you can layer it so the more coats you do the wetter it will look.

My supply is low and I'm debating trying Blackfire just to try something different but its tough because the Zaino results have been so good.

I would stick with the Zaino since you've been using it a long time and have had great success with it. I wouldn't see the point of stripping all of the zaino off and starting with a new system

OK, I've read about Zaino for years and have a couple of buddies that use it on their 'Vettes. I just put $170.00 of product in my cart and will see if it makes my S2000 faster.
Mike

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
OK, I've read about Zaino for years and have a couple of buddies that use it on their 'Vettes. I just put $170.00 of product in my cart and will see if it makes my S2000 faster.
Mike

I mean, it will look faster, but youre gonna need a turbo to make an S2000 faster. :P

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Originally posted by Surefire:

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
OK, I've read about Zaino for years and have a couple of buddies that use it on their 'Vettes. I just put $170.00 of product in my cart and will see if it makes my S2000 faster.
Mike

I mean, it will look faster, but youre gonna need a turbo to make an S2000 faster. :P

Aw, crap.

Gloom, despair and agony on me.

Mike

Brand doesn't matter. All wax is junk if you don't use the best, correct, trained installer.



Hope y'all get the reference....

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Originally posted by mcrimm:

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Originally posted by Surefire:

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
OK, I've read about Zaino for years and have a couple of buddies that use it on their 'Vettes. I just put $170.00 of product in my cart and will see if it makes my S2000 faster.
Mike

I mean, it will look faster, but youre gonna need a turbo to make an S2000 faster. :P

Aw, crap.

Gloom, despair and agony on me.

Mike

Don't get me wrong, I love the S2000!

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Originally posted by cparktd:
Brand doesn't matter. All wax is junk if you don't use the best, correct, trained installer.



Hope y'all get the reference....

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I surely DO! Wax is a system you know.....It's the system that manufactures it into a shield against the elements by using the best, factory trained, installer! And your experiences of using wax on your motorcycle are completely irrelevant to cars. Wax is JUNK until it is made into a system by a professional installer! In fact, it does not matter what wax you use, it's the professional installer that makes any wax work hehehehe

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
OK, I've read about Zaino for years and have a couple of buddies that use it on their 'Vettes. I just put $170.00 of product in my cart and will see if it makes my S2000 faster.
Mike

Read their instructions on their website before applying it. After all the work you need to do to apply it the first time, you'll lose 5 pounds of body weight and that will make it faster!

As most have said, prepping is what takes the longest using any kind of product.

After it took a couple of hours to clay my car for the first time, applying and taking off the polish/sealant/wax was nothing!

After the car has been waxed and if you're not going mudding or something, I use a spray detailer and a couple of microfiber towels every week or 2 to touch it up. The wax makes it more difficult for dust, bird poop and other light debris to adhere to your paint. Takes me under 30 minutes to do the whole car, no water needed.

It's like cleaning your firearms after a range trip, less scrubbing and easier to clean if you do it after each trip.

Maddy, if you need something simple, nothing fancy and won't stain your black trim, you can't go wrong with Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax. Since you haven't waxed in over a year, your paint would greatly benefit from using a clay bar kit prior to applying a wax/sealant.

I use Zaino products too, I endorse them! A really cool forum member here sold me his Rupes buffer. It has served me well! Like some of the other folks here said, to use a system such as Zaino, you have to remove any product on the finish, clean it and clay bar it as a foundation.

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Originally posted by Tgrshrk99:

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

There's one brand several people on here recommend,I forget the name, but if you go to their website and read what you have to do before you apply it the first time, it would take you all day.

My guess is this is a reference to Zaino. First application is a time consuming bear, but it's great stuff.

Having used their products for years. really the most important thing in initial use is to wash the car with dawn dishwashing liquid to remove the old wax.

After that you can apply their clear seal and or the liquid wax.

I highly recommend the wax accelerant they sell is it seems to not only dry faster, but harder and lasts longer. The wax is very easy to get off, just apply a very thin coat as they say. Thicker does not make it better.

In an effort to educate myself I have been watching this guys videos, he has several. As a novice I found them interesting.
He is a detailer and he sells his own line of products but isn't pushing them very hard in the videos.

Ammo NYC
https://www.youtube.com/user/AMMONYCdotcom/videos

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Originally posted by cparktd:
In an effort to educate myself I have been watching this guys videos, he has several. As a novice I found them interesting.
He is a detailer and he sells his own line of products but isn't pushing them very hard in the videos.

Ammo NYC
https://www.youtube.com/user/AMMONYCdotcom/videos

Get the VERY BEST wax installer you can get. I think you should fly him in to wax your car!

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Originally posted by BucFan:
cmr,

After getting a new car back in January, I have become a car detail junkie. I went with Meguiar's Ultimate kit to start with and even though the products are great, one always tries to find something better and longer lasting. I have been researching sealants from Wolfgang and Car Guys.

I started reading into Zaino products after your recommendation and although pricey for the amount of product, their instructions stress a little goes a long way. After I use the majority of what's left of my Meguiar's products, I'm going to invest in Zaino's kit and hope protection lasts as long as their description says. I'm sure it will, thanks.

A little does go a long way, just follow the process to the T and you'll be more than thrilled with the results

Adam's Polishes



http://adamspolishes.com

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

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Originally posted by cparktd:
In an effort to educate myself I have been watching this guys videos, he has several. As a novice I found them interesting.
He is a detailer and he sells his own line of products but isn't pushing them very hard in the videos.

Ammo NYC
https://www.youtube.com/user/AMMONYCdotcom/videos

Get the VERY BEST wax installer you can get. I think you should fly him in to wax your car!

LOL! He isn't just factory trained... He is an actual factory tech / installer!

Personally, I'd love to see maddy345 junp back into this thread and share with us how much time and effort he's willing to commit to his Camaro. Without him offering that input, these recommendations of products aren't very valuable. If he wants to be done with the entire car in an hour, recommendations of Zaino and others are 'not' going to be the right product for his needs.

And cmr076, I too have talked with Sal before and can attest from personal experience to Zaino being a top notch product line. However, I would never go so far as calling it (or any product out there right now) the 'best'. Off the top of my head, there are several products I can think of that are absolutely terrific products that would compete head to head with Zaino. Those products primarily vary in cost, ease of availability, and ease of application. We are absolutely blessed in the detailer's world to have such a broad array of terrific products to choose from. But even the best of products aren't going to be the answer for someone who isn't willing to put in the time to reap their benefits.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Personally, I'd love to see maddy345 junp back into this thread and share with us how much time and effort he's willing to commit to his Camaro. Without him offering that input, these recommendations of products aren't very valuable. If he wants to be done with the entire car in an hour, recommendations of Zaino and others are 'not' going to be the right product for his needs.

And cmr076, I too have talked with Sal before and can attest from personal experience to Zaino being a top notch product line. However, I would never go so far as calling it (or any product out there right now) the 'best'. Off the top of my head, there are several products I can think of that are absolutely terrific products that would compete head to head with Zaino. Those products primarily vary in cost, ease of availability, and ease of application. We are absolutely blessed in the detailer's world to have such a broad array of terrific products to choose from. But even the best of products aren't going to be the answer for someone who isn't willing to put in the time to reap their benefits.

Have the owners of those companies taken the time to talk to you? Do you think they would if you called them? To me, a products value is in part the actual quality of the product, but also the level of customer service that comes with that product. Zaino bro's product is as good if not better than the rest, and the customer service is light years ahead. To me, being able to talk to the guy that makes the stuff I'm investing money into, to put onto something else I've invested money into, has additional value.

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Originally posted by cmr076:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Personally, I'd love to see maddy345 junp back into this thread and share with us how much time and effort he's willing to commit to his Camaro. Without him offering that input, these recommendations of products aren't very valuable. If he wants to be done with the entire car in an hour, recommendations of Zaino and others are 'not' going to be the right product for his needs.

And cmr076, I too have talked with Sal before and can attest from personal experience to Zaino being a top notch product line. However, I would never go so far as calling it (or any product out there right now) the 'best'. Off the top of my head, there are several products I can think of that are absolutely terrific products that would compete head to head with Zaino. Those products primarily vary in cost, ease of availability, and ease of application. We are absolutely blessed in the detailer's world to have such a broad array of terrific products to choose from. But even the best of products aren't going to be the answer for someone who isn't willing to put in the time to reap their benefits.

Have the owners of those companies taken the time to talk to you? Do you think they would if you called them? To me, a products value is in part the actual quality of the product, but also the level of customer service that comes with that product. Zaino bro's product is as good if not better than the rest, and the customer service is light years ahead. To me, being able to talk to the guy that makes the stuff I'm investing money into, to put onto something else I've invested money into, has additional value.

I don't disagree with anything you typed above. And yes, as part of Autogeek's Detailfest I've personally talked to the manufacturers of many of those 'other' products I currently use, and have received more than satisfactory customer service from them the few times I have asked for it.

As I noted, Zaino is an excellent product and competitive with the the best out there. Its also rather pricey and as such, I don't 'personally' value it ahead of some of its competitors for that reason. Given the cars (and their owners) you deal with, that pricing difference is likely of no consequence whatsoever to them.

Let's not split hairs over this though. Zaino is a very good product. I would never recommend against someone buying it (as I would a couple other products). My only quibble was your statement that its the 'best' product on the market. I've detailed a lot of cars and have used a lot of different products over the past ten years, and I don't think I've ever made a comment beyond a product being "the best I've used so far" for a particular purpose. There are simply too many excellent products out there right now.

But I'll bet you $20 that neither Zaino, 'or' a couple of the products I use are going to be the right solution for maddy345 given what he shared in his original post. If he ever posts back into this thread we might find out whether I'm right or not.