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I have a 2012 Camaro (red) that hasn't been waxed since I bought it last year.

The last wax I bought was the regular old Turtle Wax paste. Its of course easy on but a pain to get all the way buffed out.

Can I please get a recommendation for a good wax that may be a little easier to use?



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Meguiar's Ultimate Paste Wax is good stuff that won't break the bank: https://www.amazon.com/Meguiar...ER4KFFDJ6XC0CFW&th=1

Zymol is very good, too.
 
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Your going to want to use a cleaner wax if it's been that long or even clay bar it. I like Zymoil, it's easy on and relatively easy off (you remove it before it dries) and it lasts a long time for me. That's what I've used the past 5+ years.

Rejex is good as well. IBIZ is good and REALLY easy but you have to order it. There are many others, depends on how much you want to spend and how much prep you want to do......

There's one brand several people on here recommend,I forget the name, but if you go to their website and read what you have to do before you apply it the first time, it would take you all day.
 
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Here's a very good website for good advice on wax and treatments.. Auto Geek


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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

There's one brand several people on here recommend,I forget the name, but if you go to their website and read what you have to do before you apply it the first time, it would take you all day.


My guess is this is a reference to Zaino. First application is a time consuming bear, but it's great stuff.
 
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This is what you seek for the absolute best finish, bar none.

I used to have a show car, and it was literally a 2-day affair to get the thing fully prepped. But man, you could LITERALLY shave in it the finish was so mirror-like.

http://www.blackfirewax.com/

Not cheap. And do be sure to get their whole system, the cleaner, polish, everything. Follow the directions to the letter.

It *IS* carnauba, so you'll need to use a sealant on top of it if you don't want it to melt in the sun.

They also make an aerosol carnauba, which is GREAT for touchups.

I used their ENTIRE system - polish, sealant, wax, tire care, everything.

The only thing I didn't use by them was for the convertible top and the seats - I used RaggTop for that - specially designed for convertibles. Car looked as good as the day I built it when I sold it, and that was 6 years later.

Note: This system is VERY easy to use, but incredibly time consuming. And DEFINITELY clay the car first. You'll know if it's necessary if you put your hand inside a NEW, CLEAN ziploc bag and run your hand across the paint. If you feel ANY bumps, then it needs to be clayed. You should also clay your windshield and headlights from time to time to remove bug proteins.
 
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I Zaino's products. They are mail order. These are all poly products, nothing natural in any of them.

http://www.zainostore.com/product/ZKIT-1.html

The sell a ton of different products. Here is what I do:

Wash the car throughly. Use a clay bar if the paint isn't pretty new.

Apply Zaino All In One and remove. It is easy, wipe on, lightly buff (by hand) off. I can do a coat in half an hour for a mid size car. It takes a tiny amount. That bottle of All In One will last a long time. You'll use too much at first, but will get used to how little it takes.

Then apply Z-2Pro (for new or really clean paint) or Z-5Pro (if the paint shows some micro scratches already). It goes on the same as the All In One. You can add a second coat for a little more pop. Or add another coat after a later wash to keep the shine up. This stuff is much longer lasting than carnauba. I find I don't have to do a total re-wax (going back to the All In One) for three or four months. Maybe longer in the summer when there isn't much rain.

The All In One can be a stand alone polish/wax, but the addition of Z-2 or Z-5 will make a notable difference in the shine. This gives a glassier look than carnauba. As I said, it lasts a long time. Carnauba will last a month, at best.

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Lots of good products out there.
What is really important is getting to the position (prep work) to apply a final coat of wax.

Autogeek.net
Detailedimage.com

Both excellent sources ~ personally I use the Mequiars Ultimate (synthetic) wax as final product.
 
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Recommend not using an all in one.

Use a proper synthetic polymer paint sealant (after clay and wash etc) and after letting it crosslink, top it off with Meguiar's #26 yellow wax, and don't let it go that long between waxings anymore Wink


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I like Pinnacle products. Not cheap but great results and you do not have to wait for the wax to dry.
 
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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

There's one brand several people on here recommend,I forget the name, but if you go to their website and read what you have to do before you apply it the first time, it would take you all day.


My guess is this is a reference to Zaino. First application is a time consuming bear, but it's great stuff.


Yeah, that's it Zaino. I took a look at the instructions for using their system the first time, shook my head 15 times and said I'm not doing all that. LOLOLOL

The Zymoil lasts 6 months on my 2008 expedition that is garage kept, BUT, in the sun a lot in Sunny South Florida.
 
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I always use Meguiar's NXT 2.0 as a base coat. After that carnuba to maintain. I also use their wash and wax.


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I have personally used the full line of Menzerna exterior products on my vehicles, and can vouch for their greatness. I have also used some of Blackfire's and Pinnacle's products both interior and exterior, and can similarly vouch for quality.

Get all you need from Auto Geek, as has been mentioned. If you sign up for their emails, they frequently have discounts and free shipping specials. I would recommend waiting for one of those unless you are in a hurry.
 
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I use a polymer sealant as well. As mentioned, proper prep is vital.

You should be able to run your fingers over the surface and have a perfect smoothness. All prep chemicals applied to get there, should be removed. Including any hard water deposits.

Then I apply rejex. Heavily (though they say you don't need to). Then buff out and polish with wool. The shine is a wet style shine, and it holds up for a solid year of washing and winter driving.

I'm looking forward to doing it to my truck soon. I'm tempted to spend a night in a wash bay and do it sooner rather than later, its a bit of a stress reliever for me.


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I use a polymer sealant as well. As mentioned, proper prep is vital.

You should be able to run your fingers over the surface and have a perfect smoothness. All prep chemicals applied to get there, should be removed. Including any hard water deposits.

Then I apply rejex. Heavily (though they say you don't need to). Then buff out and polish with wool. The shine is a wet style shine, and it holds up for a solid year of washing and winter driving.

I'm looking forward to doing it to my truck soon. I'm tempted to spend a night in a wash bay and do it sooner rather than later, its a bit of a stress reliever for me.


My detailers use Rejex on the yachts almost religiously and swear by it. It does last a long time on the yacht gelcoats and paints and is a great product. The yachts take a beating between the sun, salt, getting washed with a scrub brush, etc.
 
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Skip wax and use a sealant/polymer. Wax will rarely last more than a few months. The newer sealants last a minimum 1 year many several years. I was a HUGE fan of Zaino in the past. Easy on, easy off, lasts a year. The more coats the better it looks. Now that I am paying somebody to do it every new car goes in for paint correction and a ceramic coating. Not cheap but looks fantastic and protects like nobody's business. Just sold a 5 year old black car and the buyer was amazed at how good the paint looked.
 
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Originally posted by maddy345:
I have a 2012 Camaro (red) that hasn't been waxed since I bought it last year.

The last wax I bought was the regular old Turtle Wax paste. Its of course easy on but a pain to get all the way buffed out.

Can I please get a recommendation for a good wax that may be a little easier to use?
One of the primary reasons the Turtle Wax is such a problem to get off is that the surface is in very bad shape. Unless you plan on committing the time to get the surface in good condition (i.e. wash, clay bar, compound, and polish), then no wax anyone here recommends is going to do much good.

Given what appears to be your past detailing approach, I'd recommend you give the car to a qualified local detailer if you're truly interested in it looking its best. Plan to shell out at least a couple hundred bucks for the work.


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It *IS* carnauba, so you'll need to use a sealant on top of it if you don't want it to melt in the sun.
Uh, no. Do not attempt to apply sealer over carnuba. Sealers must bond to the surface of the paint, and carnuba inhibits that process, sacrificing the sealer. Now if you want added shine to a vehicle wearing a synthetic sealer, you 'can' apply a good carnuba wax over the sealer, which 'will' add shine, but will wear away quickly in a very hot environment.
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And DEFINITELY clay the car first. You'll know if it's necessary if you put your hand inside a NEW, CLEAN ziploc bag and run your hand across the paint. If you feel ANY bumps, then it needs to be clayed. You should also clay your windshield and headlights from time to time to remove bug proteins.
Given the paste wax he applied previously won't come off, you can pretty much assume the finish is a mess. And it will likely need a whole lot more work than just a clay bar to get it ready for a final sealer.


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I like Pinnacle products. Not cheap but great results and you do not have to wait for the wax to dry.


+1. Most all my cars got Pinnacle Souveran, especially the black or red ones. I used all their products clay bars, waxes, spray waxes throughout the years. I can no longer do the job and have it done now. I have a whole backpack full of their products I never got the chance to use after an injury. I sold my Rupes machine to a forum member here and the rest just sits.


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Meguiar's Ultimate Paste Wax is good stuff that won't break the bank: https://www.amazon.com/Meguiar...ER4KFFDJ6XC0CFW&th=1

Zymol is very good, too.


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