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Mired in the Fog of Lucidity |
More fees possible for the folks in New Jersey - The Man needs his money, don't ya know! I feel for you! New Jersey residents could soon be hit with what Republicans are calling a "rain tax," if Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy signs newly passed legislation. The bill, approved by the New Jersey Assembly and the Senate, would allow municipalities to create utilities that can collect fees from homeowners and business owners that have large paved surfaces, like driveways and parking lots. During storms, rainwater mixes with pollutants on those surfaces before running into sewers and drains. The funding from the fees could be used for upgrades to reduce the impact on the environment. “With all the salt that we’ve had on roads recently, that’s all running into the sewer systems, so you can’t ignore the problems because they don’t go away,” Senate President Steve Sweeney told CBS New York. State Sen. Richard Codey called the legislation necessary, telling CBS New York that the state’s economy is based on the shore. “We gotta make sure we keep it that way,” he said. But Republicans have blasted the plan, dubbing it a “rain tax,” and complaining the state already has implemented too many costs on residents. “We all want to protect our environment. We all want to preserve it for future generations, but this is a weighted tax,” Sen. Tom Kean Jr. told CBS New York. “The citizens of New Jersey…really [have] no way to defend themselves against tax increases at local levels.” The bill would establish a “Clean Stormwater and Floor Reduction Fund,” which would be used for stormwater utilities in the state, as well as water quality monitoring, pollution reduction projects and outreach programs, according to the legislation. “Under the bill, a county, municipality, or authority (local unit) that establishes a stormwater utility is authorized to charge and collect reasonable fees and other charges to recover the stormwater utility’s costs for stormwater management,” the bill reads. The bill would allow the utilities to go after people who don't pay and charge interest on unpaid fees, effectively constituting a tax lien—the same method used on delinquent property taxes. The governor’s office told Fox News on Wednesday that they would not comment on the pending legislation, when asked if Murphy would sign the bill. But local reports suggest Murphy will sign the legislation. https://www.foxnews.com/politi...be-hit-with-rain-tax | ||
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Political Cynic |
if that happens, does this mean that the state has now assumed ownership of any and all damages that rain may cause to private property? [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
That Governor in New Jersey is a wrecking ball. He's working tirelessly to finally bring NJ to her knees. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Be prepared for loud noise and recoil |
Craziest tax I’ve seen since Chicago tried taxing people’s Netflix subscriptions. “Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison "Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson | |||
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They are trying that here in PA. Lots of uproar. Steve "The Marines I have seen around the world have, the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps." Eleanor Roosevelt, 1945 | |||
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They started that in Lucas County Ohio several years ago. It shows up on the water bill. They have a formula of all your roof surface, drive ways, sidewalks, basically anything that will NOT absorb water and tax you. Supposedly it was to take care of the storm sewer system and to clean out ditches, creeks and streams. BS NRA Life member NRA Certified Instructor "Our duty is to serve the mission, and if we're not doing that, then we have no right to call what we do service" Marcus Luttrell | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
In a way I think the residents of the People's Republik of New Jersey should learn the consequences of electing a far left libtard like Phil Murphy the hard way. They elected the man, let them learn the hard way. | |||
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Nature is full of magnificent creatures |
He has a lot of help, too. It takes a bunch of people working together to create the things they are all working to bring about. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Rope is cheap. Trees are plentiful. | |||
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Objectively Reasonable |
Yeah. You see, that's not how it work. Did you "deserve" Obama? Why not? You elected him, right? Wrong. The people that voted for that douche will never actually pay the tax themselves. The recipient underclass doesn't own roof/driveway/parking lot acreage. But eff all of us that do, right? Think you're more than a few "swing counties" away from seeing this shit on your side of the Delaware River? | |||
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There is a similar tax here in Ga that is supposed to go towards maintaining the street gutters and drains on the surface streets. You are taxed based upon the square footage of your roof & driveway. Basically a rain tax. Hedley Lamarr: Wait, wait, wait. I'm unarmed. Bart: Alright, we'll settle this like men, with our fists. Hedley Lamarr: Sorry, I just remembered . . . I am armed. | |||
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Nature is full of magnificent creatures |
The best part is, there is already a sewer tax that covers this, at least where I grew up. | |||
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Member |
I pay for water and sewer. There are no storm sewers in my county which sits on the Barnegat Bay. A few years ago there was a vote to build a county storm sewer system. It was rejected because of the cost. North Jersey does have a lot of storm sewer systems. If the people in South Jersey had our way we would divide the State in half. South Jersey has more Republican Counties than all of North Jersey, but the North has a much denser population and voting block. Living the Dream | |||
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Paddle your own canoe |
Oh, those dumbasses will pay for it all right, through higher prices for whatever those business build or sell. Every business has to cover their costs and a tax is a cost anyway you look at it. If they can't cover the costs they can either go out of business or move to a more tax friendly state, sorta like the gazillionaires are doing in New York now. | |||
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Dances With Tornados |
The Pecker Tax is coming. I'll probably get a refund. | |||
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Mired in the Fog of Lucidity |
^^^ ^^^ | |||
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You can't go home again |
His role model is California's Gov moonbeam. This state is getting worse by the day. It's horrible and then the idiots that voted for him complain... That's the worst part to me. --------------------------------------- Life Member NRA “If you realize that all things change, there is nothing you will try to hold on to. If you are not afraid of dying, there is nothing you cannot achieve." - Lao Tzu | |||
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The Unions voted for this douche bag. Their reward? 15% pay raise for State workers. _________________________ | |||
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The Constable |
They will never learn! | |||
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The State is the one who put the salt there in the first place. New Jersey is a nice place to be From- I left in 1988 and never looked back except to laugh. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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