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"It is will soon be illegal in California for both public and charter schools to suspend disruptive students from kindergarten through eighth grade"

"Gov. Gavin Newsom on Monday signed into law Senate Bill 419, which permanently prohibits willful defiance suspensions in grades four and five. It also bans such suspensions in grades six through eight for five years. The law goes into effect July 1, 2020."

A previous law had already banned schools from suspending defiant kids through third grade.

Sen. Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley, who wrote the new law, said it would “keep kids in school where they belong and where teachers and counselors can help them thrive.”

I understand CA teachers are up in arms over this on social media, but they belong to perhaps the most leftist political union in the state, and voted for these politicians. Reap what you sow.

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Originally posted by oddball:

Reap what you sow.

Exactly.

It'll be fun to hear all the wailing from the Calif Teachers Assoc., this is the teachers union which is arguably, the king-maker of CA politics.

Reap what you sow indeed.

2 words.

Fuck. Them.

The CA teachers unions are among the most corrosive influences in the state. "Reap what you sow" has rarely been more appropriate.

The sole purpose of this bill is to make the stats on non-white kids look better.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
The sole purpose of this bill is to make the stats on non-white kids look better.

+1

I guess we’ll be seeing more better behaved kids, right? Go to hell California. Oh, wait...

Jeez. Now they’re not even letting the nanny state be a half decent nanny. Another generation lost to zero consequences.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
2 words.

Fuck. Them.

Ditto

CA police officers and teachers should all resign. Maybe CA voters will get the message.

To CA teachers and their Union...

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Originally posted by ARMT Guy:

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Originally posted by oddball:

Reap what you sow.

Exactly.

Yeah, but in the meantime the kids do not learn things they ought to learn! As in actions have consequences! More libtard BS disguised as social improvement.

So kids get no training about what happens when they misbehave and grow up believing that that concept works in the real world.

But then, I am an old fart who went to school to learn scholastic stuff, not to get indoctrinated in the latest socialist BS!

If you can read this law, thank a teacher.......

If my kids went to CA public schools, I’d be supremely pissed. I really don’t GAF about the problems this causes for the teachers, as many of them are GDCs that deserve this and more. However, this is going to totally suck for those kids that are actually trying to learn something in school.

I went to CA public schools and when I got out of line it was pointed out to me in no uncertain terms. That is part of growing up, and it is good for kids.

This Commie horse feces is not good for anyone. Sigh...

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Originally posted by slosig:
I went to CA public schools and when I got out of line it was pointed out to me in no uncertain terms. That is part of growing up, and it is good for kids.

This Commie horse feces is not good for anyone. Sigh...

Same. I went to a ghetto HS, the first solid 10-15 mins of each class, teachers would spend time getting kids into the classroom, sitting-down and shutting-up. It was amazing, every single period this circus would go on.
Not a big secret why parents either put their kids into private schools or, simply move to the 'burbs.

I went to elementary school in California in the 1960s. There was no tolerance for "willfully defying" teachers, and paddling (swat on the butt) was authorized. And then you had to face your parents when you got home.

I have one question. Does the bill provide for top level professional help with the disruptive kids?

Legislation on complex social issues is ridiculous. Does nothing to solve complex problems.

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Originally posted by corsair:

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Originally posted by slosig:
I went to CA public schools and when I got out of line it was pointed out to me in no uncertain terms. That is part of growing up, and it is good for kids.

This Commie horse feces is not good for anyone. Sigh...

Same. I went to a ghetto HS, the first solid 10-15 mins of each class, teachers would spend time getting kids into the classroom, sitting-down and shutting-up. It was amazing, every single period this circus would go on.
Not a big secret why parents either put their kids into private schools or, simply move to the 'burbs.

My experiences were a little different.

One morning I fell asleep in Grammar with my head propped on my right fist, elbow on the desk. Because the English teacher had the copier key, the math teacher (a big burly, but gentle guy we called Yogi and gave a hard time) came by to get it so he could get some stuff done. I was told when he saw me sleeping, his eyes just lit up. I woke up having fallen off my hand, the whole class laughing their heads off, to see his back retreating down the aisle. They said he grabbed the desk, tipped it nearly 90 degrees, then set it back down upright and walked off.

My Ag teacher (who was and still is a good friend) was also a big guy. He drank way too many sodas and always had crushed cans around. If folks would talk in class, he’d throw a can at them. He tossed one at me one day when I was in the back row, I caught it and lobbed it back. He caught it, and the grape soda inside dripped on his papers. I don’t think I’d ever seen him move so fast. He grabbed me by the scruff of the neck and the belt, hauled me to the door, kicked it open with the crash bar and physically threw me out. We laughed about it afterwards, but I never tossed another can back.

We goofed off a bit, and there were a few folks from the hood, but they ran a reasonably tight ship. If we got out of line and got caught, we knew we would get it. We also knew better than to snivel about it when we got home as the response would be something like, “Apparently you didn’t get enough at school.” Nobody back then, even the hood rats, was stupid enough to be willfully defiant.

Things have changed dramatically, and not for the better.

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If you can read this law, thank a teacher.......

Glad to see you on board!!!! LOL