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If you can read this law, thank a teacher.......


 
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Go ahead punk, make my day
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The sole purpose of this bill is to make the stats on non-white kids look better.
Yup, fosho.
 
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If my kids went to CA public schools, I’d be supremely pissed. I really don’t GAF about the problems this causes for the teachers, as many of them are GDCs that deserve this and more. However, this is going to totally suck for those kids that are actually trying to learn something in school.

I went to CA public schools and when I got out of line it was pointed out to me in no uncertain terms. That is part of growing up, and it is good for kids.

This Commie horse feces is not good for anyone. Sigh...


My youngest is a sophomore and his high school doesn't have the socio-economic demographics where disruptive kids are all that common. And I don't think the HS administration has much tolerance for disruptive kids, regardless what Gov Newsom says.

When my oldest was in 7th grade, he and two other band geek friends drew stick figures pooping from a building as an assassination attempt on the president. It was a joke of course, but someone was offended. Three boys spent 2.5 school days in onsite detention. They were encouraged to read from the books provided by the school. One of the books? The Day My Butt Went Psyhco


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Would bringing a gun to school to hose your classmates be defined as "willful defiance" ?
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"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong. Know-it-alls in the school system do not lose one dime or one hour's sleep if their bright ideas turn out to be all wrong, or even disastrous, for the child."

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Fuck. Them.


^^^^this^^^^

My daughter survived 12 years of Kalifornia indoctrination. I kept her head straight, but it took many discussions after school to point out the bullshit fallacies of their "teachings". Basically I did what the school was supposed to do, teach her to think for herself and form her own positions. By high school she was one of few students who argued conservative positions during class...and she never lost. Her junior history teacher pulled her aside at the end of the year and thanked for being willing to stand her ground and make her point.
 
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I have one question. Does the bill provide for top level professional help with the disruptive kids?


Unless you're kidding, you give these "disruptive" kids a bit too much credit.

For the most part, especially in dense urban areas, they are simple thugs, or thugs in training. See all of those teenage and 20 something gangbangers and thugs out there? They were once one of those "disruptive" kids. And because of shitty/no parenting, whether these junior varsity thugs are in school or not, doesn't make a damn difference.

These thugs, forced to stay in class, will bring a whole other type of "disruption", now knowing they can get away with it, especially the 6-8th graders.



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I have one question. Does the bill provide for top level professional help with the disruptive kids?


Unless you're kidding, you give these "disruptive" kids a bit too much credit.

For the most part, especially in dense urban areas, they are simple thugs, or thugs in training. See all of those teenage and 20 something gangbangers and thugs out there? They were once one of those "disruptive" kids. And because of shitty/no parenting, whether these junior varsity thugs are in school or not, doesn't make a damn difference.

These thugs, forced to stay in class, will bring a whole other type of "disruption", now knowing they can get away with it, especially the 6-8th graders.


This is why I left teaching.

My first day teaching, a kid left my class, got in a fight, police responded, Missile (the boy/thug's name) took a swing at the cop when he tried to separate them. Missile left in cuffs.

He was back the next week like nothing happened and was just pushed through until he somehow graduated, despite not doing shit for all of high school.

I'm sure Missile is now a pillar of society.
 
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Unless you're kidding, you give these "disruptive" kids a bit too much credit.

For the most part, especially in dense urban areas, they are simple thugs, or thugs in training. See all of those teenage and 20 something gangbangers and thugs out there? They were once one of those "disruptive" kids. And because of shitty/no parenting, whether these junior varsity thugs are in school or not, doesn't make a damn difference.

These thugs, forced to stay in class, will bring a whole other type of "disruption", now knowing they can get away with it, especially the 6-8th graders.

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I was being sarcastic. Legislation does nothing to solve problems like thugs in the classroom. I have worked with juvenile offenders and as a group they are much more dangerous than adults. They have the physical capablity to hurt you and the inability to delay impulses. A great combination!! In most school systems these kids just stop coming to school. Problem solved right there.
 
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Easy solution: expulsion. Yeah I know, only half kidding.
 
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Reap what you sow.




Exactly.


Yeah, but in the meantime the kids do not learn things they ought to learn! As in actions have consequences! More libtard BS disguised as social improvement.

So kids get no training about what happens when they misbehave and grow up believing that that concept works in the real world.

But then, I am an old fart who went to school to learn scholastic stuff, not to get indoctrinated in the latest socialist BS!


You do realize it's easier to control dumber people en masse than it is smarter people.

"Idiocracy" here we come!!!!


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Every teacher should resign or walk out until discipline now restored in those schools. All the governor did was give those kids a license to go crazy with no penalty.




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