Local store that is going to franchise has some of the best bagels we have found in central Florida
The told us the dough is made in New Jersey.
We usually pay about $17.99 for a bakers dozen (13)

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Originally posted by downtownv:

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
Check the freezer section of your grocery store. Ray's New York Bagels are pretty good.

No self-respecting person from the NY Metro area would ever eat a frozen bagel. Are you meshuggeneh?

The Jewish enclaves in Brooklyn where my grandmother lived, there was a mom & pop bagel bakery on just about every block. Fresh, hot out of the oven, could buy a dozen but probably made it home with ten.

There is nothing like that near where I currently live. The Ray's in the freezer section are actually "take and bake" (seven minutes at 425°F), so they are fresh-baked when they hit my breakfast plate. It's the best that we can do around here.

Years ago, the Manhattan Bagels chain had a store near here. They were decent bagels, but the store was bought by Einstein Brothers, and Einstein's bagels are nowere near as good, and way overpriced, so I'll stick with Ray's from the freezer.

I'm way too old to start another business; if I were younger, I might think about a bagel & bialy bakery.

Everything has gone up, it’s just so crazy

Local place near me that’s been in business like 75 years making amazing donuts, they were always like $0.85 or so a piece for years, now they’re like $2 each.

I used to pick up a dozen on my way to work for my coworkers and I rarely do it anymore because it’s pushing 25 bucks to do that plus they’re now playing the stupid “it’s going to ask you a question” tip begging shit on their terminal.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by downtownv:

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
Check the freezer section of your grocery store. Ray's New York Bagels are pretty good.

No self-respecting person from the NY Metro area would ever eat a frozen bagel. Are you meshuggeneh?

The Jewish enclaves in Brooklyn where my grandmother lived, there was a mom & pop bagel bakery on just about every block. Fresh, hot out of the oven, could buy a dozen but probably made it home with ten.

There is nothing like that near where I currently live. The Ray's in the freezer section are actually "take and bake" (seven minutes at 425°F), so they are fresh-baked when they hit my breakfast plate. It's the best that we can do around here.

Years ago, the Manhattan Bagels chain had a store near here. They were decent bagels, but the store was bought by Einstein Brothers, and Einstein's bagels are nowere near as good, and way overpriced, so I'll stick with Ray's from the freezer.

I'm way too old to start another business; if I were younger, I might think about a bagel & bialy bakery.

LRD, I'm playing with you, bubbala. I know your end of the world. Maybe there's a Manhattan Bagel in Orlando. which to us, is like ordering pizza from Dominos.

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Originally posted by konata88:
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I may try making them - thanks! Dumb question: what's the difference between boiling and not boiling the dough? I think usually bagels are boiled but not sure why.
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“Why bagels are boiled”
https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...250084524#7250084524

Steaming is more common than boiling in most places nowadays.

When boiled the lye is important, too.

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Originally posted by downtownv:

Maybe there's a Manhattan Bagel in Orlando.

Looked at the website, it shows the only location in Florida is Coral Springs. 360 mile round trip. My EV would get me there and almost home, with a full charge.

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Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:

Local store that is going to franchise has some of the best bagels we have found in central Florida

What store? Location? I'll give it a try if I get to the south side of Orlando -- I live about 50 yards north of the Orlando / Altamonte Springs city line.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:

Local store that is going to franchise has some of the best bagels we have found in central Florida

What store? Location? I'll give it a try if I get to the south side of Orlando -- I live about 50 yards north of the Orlando / Altamonte Springs city line.

It looks like they have two locations.
The one closest to me has a store front that faces US27 north in a plaza with a Hungry Howie's pizza and it is maybe a mile or two north of 192.
From what I can tell Sunrise Plasa Drive runs parallel to US 27 behind the store.

This is the addresses to the one I go to

Bagel Bros Café
1215 Sunrise Plaza Drive, Suite B
Clermont, FL 34714


It looks like they also have another store off 50 in Clermont although I have never been to this one.

Bagel Bros Café
1640 E. Highway 50, Suite B
Clermont, FL 34711

I would give them a call before you go all the way out there to double check their location, check on there hours of operation, and to check on what they have in the store for available bagels.
My wife tells me you can also call ahead of time to place an order for pickup before you drive all the way there.

I think but I am not 100% sure they make Bialys one day a week I think on Fridays.

The closet bakery to me sells poor imitations of a bagel for $2.50, I pass. The local market has poorer quality for $1.25, I do buy on occasion. I go to a supermarket 25 miles away on occasion, they have pretty good bagels for $.79. They also have hard to find Taylor Pork Roll from NJ which is perfect with an everything bagel!

If a bagel is not boiled in the making of it, it’s not a ‘bagel’.

The price in my neck for a baker’s dozen of ‘real’ bagels is ~$14.00

Both “3 Men And A Bagel” and “Back Home Bagels”, both make real bagels and both are very good.

BHG makes a better breakfast egg sandwich as they have a griddle and fry the egg (vs microwaving it - blech!).

Here on LI one of the places we go, I should say she goes, as I wont pay that money, is 22.00 doz, but they do throw in 1 freebee! Crazy!!! Egg sandwiches, with a meat and cheese, which may be a regional thing around here, are upwards of 10.00 now.

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Originally posted by Cookster:
If a bagel is not boiled in the making of it, it’s not a ‘bagel’.

I 100% agree. I drop them in a large pot 2 minutes before transferring them to the baking sheet.

I have an English Muffin recipe as well.

I do love a great bagel and there is a place local to me whose prices aren't bad, I think $13-14 for a dozen.

On a side note, I am not sure how they make them-boiled or not-but Einstein Bagels makes my favorite one, the Asiago,garlic and spinach bagel. I could eat 2 or 3 in a sitting and usually do on the way home with them. They are a bit pricey,around $2.50 or so per bagel but every once in a while I get the hankering and treat myself.

Whole Wheat Bagels
(Makes 1 dozen or 8 large bagels)

To make the dough:
2 cups warm water (100° to 110°F)
1 Tbsp barley malt syrup
400 gr bread flour*
400 gr whole wheat flour
2 tsp kosher salt
1 tsp active dry yeast

To cook the bagels:
8-12 cups water
½-¾ cups sugar
1 egg white, beaten with 1 tsp water (optional)

Prep:
• Turn the oven light on & place large bowl inside to warm.
• Preheat oven to 450°F once bagels are formed.
• Combine the water & sugar in a large pot; turn heat on low.

Combine 2 cups warm water & syrup in the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with a dough hook. Add flour, salt & yeast on top. Mix dough at low speed until it just comes together, let it rest 15 min, then mix for 6 min. Continue mixing on low speed for an additional 2 min, adding additional flour so that dough does not stick to your hands. Place dough in a large bowl lightly coated with oil, turning to coat the top. Cover & let rise in a warm place/oven (~85°F), free from drafts, for 30 min.

Turn dough out onto a lightly floured surface & divide it into 12 (10 or 8) equal portions. Working with one portion at a time (covering remaining dough to prevent drying), shape each portion into a ball. Press flat & make a hole in the center of each ball using your index finger. Using fingers on both hands, gently pull the dough away from the center to make a 1½-inch hole. Place bagels on a baking sheet coated with cooking spray. Lightly coat bagels with cooking spray; cover them with plastic wrap. Let bagels rise 10 min (they will rise only slightly).

While the bagels rise, bring the water to a gentle boil. Lower two or three bagels into the pan, cook for 30 seconds. Transfer the bagels to a wire rack. Repeat the procedure with remaining bagels working in batches of two or three. Divide the bagels between two baking sheets lined with parchment paper**. Brush bagels with egg wash & bake at 450° for 7(8) min, rotate pans & bake for 7(8) more min or until golden (total of 14(16) min). Cool on wire rack.

* For cinnamon raisin bagels, mix in 1½ cups of raisins during the final 3 min of mixing & ~1 tsp ground cinnamon into the flour before you start the mixing if desired.

** Do not bake cinnamon raisin bagels directly on a Silpat; raisins stain it & it’s difficult to scrub off.

^^^^^^
I’m not seeing lye.

Boiling in lye is a pain in the ass. Barley Malt is good if you can find it, also expensive, honey works well.

I've been making bagels for awhile and they are better than anything I can buy. I've had NY bagels 50 years ago so it's hard for me to make a fair comparison but...I would put these up against them and they would probably rate very well.

I do boil mine for the reasons others have listed and if you like bagels that are a little crusty on the outside and chewy on the inside, the time is definitely worth the effort.
Plain, Everything, Jalapeno Cheese, Asiago Cheese, Cinnamon Raisin...they're all good

I'd buy that. Looks great!

No joy in the local market freezer. They had something called Udi's - gluten free. Hell no, strong pass. And they had something labeled as NY style but from Berzerkly. Yea, strong pass.

Just bought some, $1.69/ea in the bakery of my local HyVee. I doubt they’re boiled, but they’re still tasty.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by downtownv:

Maybe there's a Manhattan Bagel in Orlando.

Looked at the website, it shows the only location in Florida is Coral Springs. 360 mile round trip. My EV would get me there and almost home, with a full charge.

Oy Vey! I can FEDEX you. You have my email. Place your order!