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Definitely agree. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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| So let it be written, so let it be done...  |
Didn't 23 and Me get bought out by GlaxoSmithKline? I wonder how the DNA data will be used now? 'veritas non verba magistri' | |||
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| You're going to feel a little pressure... |
Beat me by *this* much  Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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 Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. “If in winning a race, you lose the respect of your fellow competitors, then you have won nothing” - Paul Elvstrom "The Great Dane" 1928 - 2016 | |||
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I didn’t read the whole thread so maybe this was addressed, but these ancestry/genealogy websites are not “cooperating with the authorities. The open-source websites that law enforcement have used to solve cold case homicides work because the law enforcement agency created an accountC submitted the DNA sample as their own, and then the website built them a family tree, like it would for anyone else. The agency then tracks known relatives on the tree to the area and time of the murders. There was one in WA where they submitted DNA, found an aunt in the family tree that had an account, traced her family down to two brothers that lived in the town where this murder happened, and then followed them around to collect known DNA samples for comparison. It really has nothing to do with the DNA company being a snitch. ****************************** May our caskets be made of hundred-year oak, and may we plant those trees tomorrow. | |||
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thin skin can't win |
4 words. Alexa. Replay The other ideas are good. I’d offer a homeless person $20 to fill the vial with spit and see what shows up. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
Say what??? I think it depends on when you served. I doubt the government has my dna from when I served and got discharged in 1982. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
I'd say you're probably right about that. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
Point in case; just what do people think these business models are based upon? The testing fee? Ha! No. Selling data eventually (just like Google and Facebook ...) to interested parties e.g. insurance companies. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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But the dog may have been involved in a murder Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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| Just because something is legal to do doesn't mean it is the smart thing to do. |
What makes you so sure you were wrong and they are right? We had DNA testing on our dog (shelter rescue as a puppy)to determine the breed. Everybody that knows are dog laughed at the outcome. This includes 2 vets, a couple pro trainers (that show dogs) amd pro groomers. I don't trust DNA testing at all. Integrity is doing the right thing, even when nobody is looking. | |||
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Well... as it goes... I got a packet in the mail a week or so -- from a company called "Embark" no less -- offering me DNA testing for my dog. "Give your dog the gift of identity with an Embark dog DNA Test." No kidding. I could perhaps see doing that in a case like gjgalligan's, above, but the rude part of me thinks, "Identity? Heck, if she knows her name and comes when called, I think that just about covers identity." God bless America. | |||
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Corgis Rock |
Mine was collected in the 1990s. It was solely to be used to identify remains. At least that was what was promised and written. A few years later, the law changed and now police can look at it. I have no doubt all these DNA operations will eventually be open to police. Next would be collecting for various reason and then from everybody. “ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull. | |||
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Maybe if you're deserving of cloning technologies you can sell your DNA on the open market if and whenever it becomes viable to do so Regards, Will G. | |||
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Who owns these DNA verification companies? I notice somebody may have bought one of them. Who? Why? | |||
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| Oh stewardess, I speak jive.  |
By next Christmas you'll be able to stick your finger in your Amazon Echo, and it will take your DNA sample via a small pin prick, then it'll utilize distributed computing on par with SETI at home to analyze your DNA, then upload it to your iCloud, while also connecting with your Health Care provider to adjust your rates for having too much cholesterol, before it will agree to unlock your car for you once your vehicle insurance rates are raised because people with high cholesterol are thought to have slow reaction times, or something. Brought to you by Google.gov, and the Free State of State Farm (formerly known as Texas). | |||
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Seeker of Clarity |
Here's an interesting thought. As DNA databases are populated by the willing, the gaps (those not in it) will become less and less important. The picture will paint itself. And with AI and analytics, it will be amazing and scary what they will be able to do with this information. I am personally opposed to my DNA being added to this repository and I will advise my family to do the same. And I'm the guy with four Amazon Echos in my house, so that oughta tell you something!  | |||
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Sound and Fury |
As far as the british company deleting your data on request, GDPR requires them to do that (for now). But they can keep anonymized data. So if your concern is someone being able to trace it back to you, that shouldn't be an issue if they are complying with the law. But they will certainly use the anonymized data for demographics and research. "I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, Jan. 11, 1989 Si vis pacem para bellum There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Feeding Trolls Since 1995 | |||
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