http://mynorthwest.com/722573/...confederate-statues/

Now the city of Seattle wants all Confederate statues taken down too. There doing this to piss off
Conservatives. What's nexts week agenda? Insanity.

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Originally posted by nojoy:
http://mynorthwest.com/722573/...confederate-statues/

Now the city of Seattle wants all Confederate statues taken down too. There doing this to piss off
Conservatives. What's nexts week agenda? Insanity.

Guess the statue of Lenin is ok though.

Natch!

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Originally posted by nojoy:
http://mynorthwest.com/722573/...confederate-statues/

Now the city of Seattle wants all Confederate statues taken down too. There doing this to piss off
Conservatives. What's nexts week agenda? Insanity.

Seattle? Seattle?! ' Tha fuck does Washington State have to do with the Confederacy? They didn't even know there was a damn war until it was over...there was what, 1,000 people living there at the time?


Fucking loons...they probably put them up last month just so they can protest them this month. Those idiots just needed something to whine about this month.

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Originally posted by nojoy:
http://mynorthwest.com/722573/...confederate-statues/

Now the city of Seattle wants all Confederate statues taken down too. There doing this to piss off
Conservatives. What's nexts week agenda? Insanity.

Seattle? Seattle?! ' Tha fuck does Washington State have to do with the Confederacy? They didn't even know there was a damn war until it was over...there was what, 1,000 people living there at the time?


Fucking loons...they probably put them up last month just so they can protest them this month. Those idiots just needed something to whine about this month.

Highway 99 runs from the Canadian border to Vancouver, WA. It was named the "Jefferson Davis Highway and marked with two granite monuments. Since then both were removed from public land and now are on private property near Battle Ground, WA. It's under guard.

There is a 91year-old Confederate Veteran’s Memorial also stands at Seattle’s Lake View Cemetery. Some 12 people are buried with it. During the 1909 Alaskan- Youkon- Pacific exposition there was a "Dixie Day" celebrating Southern culture. The event was popular and became an annual picnic. Funds from the event paid for the monument.

It would be interesting to see if the latter monuments gets removed, will the bodies also be exhumed?


http://www.kiro7.com/news/loca...ersy-again/593151760

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Originally posted by Icabod:

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:

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Originally posted by nojoy:
http://mynorthwest.com/722573/...confederate-statues/

Now the city of Seattle wants all Confederate statues taken down too. There doing this to piss off
Conservatives. What's nexts week agenda? Insanity.

Seattle? Seattle?! ' Tha fuck does Washington State have to do with the Confederacy? They didn't even know there was a damn war until it was over...there was what, 1,000 people living there at the time?


Fucking loons...they probably put them up last month just so they can protest them this month. Those idiots just needed something to whine about this month.

Highway 99 runs from the Canadian border to Vancouver, WA. It was named the "Jefferson Davis Highway and marked with two granite monuments. Since then both were removed from public land and now are on private property near Battle Ground, WA. It's under guard.

There is a 91year-old Confederate Veteran’s Memorial also stands at Seattle’s Lake View Cemetery. Some 12 people are buried with it. During the 1909 Alaskan- Youkon- Pacific exposition there was a "Dixie Day" celebrating Southern culture. The event was popular and became an annual picnic. Funds from the event paid for the monument.

It would be interesting to see if the latter monuments gets removed, will the bodies also be exhumed?


http://www.kiro7.com/news/loca...ersy-again/593151760

Interesting...some Googling shows that the KKK had a large presence starting in the 1920s.

Loons, nonetheless.

If Jeanne d'Arc statues must be torn down, what about statues of Charlesmagne?

Pat Buchanan Asks "In This Second American Civil War - Whose Side Are You On?"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...r-whose-side-are-you

"They had found a leader, Robert E. Lee -- and what a leader! ... No military leader since Napoleon has aroused such enthusiastic devotion among troops as did Lee when he reviewed them on his horse Traveller."

So wrote Samuel Eliot Morison in his magisterial "The Oxford History of the American People" in 1965.

First in his class at West Point, hero of the Mexican War, Lee was the man to whom President Lincoln turned to lead his army. But when Virginia seceded, Lee would not lift up his sword against his own people, and chose to defend his home state rather than wage war upon her.

This veneration of Lee, wrote Richard Weaver, "appears in the saying attributed to a Confederate soldier, 'The rest of us may have ... descended from monkeys, but it took a God to make Marse Robert.'"

Growing up after World War II, this was accepted history.

Yet, on the militant left today, the name Lee evokes raw hatred and howls of "racist and traitor." A clamor has arisen to have all statues of him and all Confederate soldiers and statesmen pulled down from their pedestals and put in museums or tossed onto trash piles.

What has changed since 1965?

It is not history. There have been no great new discoveries about Lee.

What has changed is America herself. She is not the same country. We have passed through a great social, cultural and moral revolution that has left us irretrievably divided on separate shores.

And the politicians are in panic.

Two years ago, Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe called the giant statues of Lee and "Stonewall" Jackson on Richmond's Monument Avenue "parts of our heritage."



After Charlottesville, New York-born-and-bred McAuliffe, entertaining higher ambitions, went full scalawag, demanding the statues be pulled down as "flashpoints for hatred, division, and violence."

Who hates the statues, Terry? Who's going to cause the violence?

Answer: The Democratic left whom Terry must now appease.

McAuliffe is echoed by Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam, the Democratic candidate in November to succeed McAuliffe. GOP nominee Ed Gillespie wants Monument Avenue left alone.

The election is the place to decide this, but the left will not wait.

In Durham, North Carolina, our Taliban smashed the statue of a Confederate soldier. Near the entrance of Duke University Chapel, a statue of Lee has been defaced, the nose broken off.

Wednesday at dawn, Baltimore carried out a cultural cleansing by taking down statues of Lee and Maryland Chief Justice Roger Taney who wrote the Dred Scott decision and opposed Lincoln's suspension of the right of habeas corpus.

Like ISIS, which smashed the storied ruins of Palmyra, and the al-Qaida rebels who ravaged the fabled Saharan city of Timbuktu, the new barbarism has come to America. This is going to become a blazing issue, not only between but within the parties.

For there are 10 Confederates in Statuary Hall in the Capitol, among them Lee, Georgia's Alexander Stephens, vice president to Jefferson Davis, and Davis himself. The Black Caucus wants them gone.

Mount Rushmore-sized carvings of Lee, Jackson and Davis are on Stone Mountain, Georgia. Are they to be blasted off?

There are countless universities, colleges and high schools like Washington & Lee named for Confederate statesmen and soldiers. Across the Potomac from D.C. are Jefferson Davis Highway and Leesburg Pike to Leesburg itself, 25 miles north. Are all highways, streets, towns and counties named for Confederates to be renamed? What about Fort Bragg?

On every Civil War battlefield, there are monuments to the Southern fallen. Gettysburg has hundreds of memorials, statues and markers. But if, as the left insists we accept, the Confederates were traitors trying to tear America apart to preserve an evil system, upon what ground do Democrats stand to resist the radical left's demands?

What do we do with those battlefields where Confederates were victorious: Bull Run, Fredericksburg, Chancellorsville?

"Where does this all end?" President Trump asked.

It doesn't.

Not until America's histories and biographies are burned and new texts written to Nazify Lee, Jackson, Davis and all the rest, will a newly indoctrinated generation of Americans accede to this demand to tear down and destroy what their fathers cherished.

And once all the Confederates are gone, one must begin with the explorers, and then the slave owners like Presidents Washington, Jefferson and Madison, who seceded from slave-free Britain. White supremacists all.

Andrew Jackson, Henry Clay of Kentucky and John Calhoun must swiftly follow.

Then there are all those segregationists. From 1865 to 1965, virtually all of the great Southern senators were white supremacists.

In the first half of the 20th century, Woodrow Wilson and FDR carried all 11 states of a rigidly segregationist South all six times they ran, and FDR rewarded Dixie by putting a Klansman on the Supreme Court.

While easy for Republicans to wash their hands of such odious elements as Nazis in Charlottesville, will they take up the defense of the monuments and statues that have defined our history, or capitulate to the icon-smashers?

In this Second American Civil War, whose side are you on?

Yes, what about that statue of Robert Byrd?

Duke University removes damaged Robert E. Lee statue

http://www.richmond.com/news/n...d4-9d5085de5a42.html

DURHAM, N.C. (AP) — Duke University removed a statue of Gen. Robert E. Lee early Saturday after it was vandalized amid a national debate about monuments to the Confederacy.

The university said it removed the carved limestone likeness before dawn from the entryway to Duke Chapel, where it stood among 10 historical figures. Officials discovered early Thursday that the statue's face had been gouged and scarred and that part of the nose is missing.

Another statue of Lee, the top Confederate general during the Civil War, was the focus of the violent protest in Charlottesville, Virginia, that turned deadly a week ago.

Duke University president Vincent Price said in a letter to the campus community that he consulted with faculty, staff, students and alumni before deciding to remove the statue.

"I took this course of action to protect Duke Chapel, to ensure the vital safety of students and community members who worship there, and above all to express the deep and abiding values of our university," Price said in the letter.

Durham has been a focal point in the debate over Confederate statues after protesters tore down a bronze Confederate soldier in front of a government building downtown on Monday. Eight people face charges including rioting and damaging property. Days later, hundreds marched through Durham in a largely peaceful demonstration against racism before an impromptu rally at the stone pedestal where the statue stood.

Other monuments around North Carolina also have been vandalized since the Charlottesville protest, and calls are growing to take down a Confederate soldier statue from the campus of the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill.

Gov. Roy Cooper has urged the removal of Confederate monuments from public property around the state, though his goal would be difficult to achieve because of a 2015 state law prohibits their removal. Duke is a private university and outside the scope of that law.

The Lee statue had stood for about 85 years between two other historical figures of the American South, Thomas Jefferson and poet Sidney Lanier, along the main entryway to the neo-Gothic church at the center of Duke's campus. It was moved into storage at 3 a.m. Saturday and its future is undetermined, university spokesman Michael Schoenfeld told the Herald-Sun of Durham.

"We want people to learn from it and study it and the ideas it represents. What happens to it and where it will be is a question for further deliberation," Schoenfeld said. The decision was supported by the university's trustees, Schoenfeld said.

Duke has been affiliated since its founding with the United Methodist Church. Luke Powery, dean of Duke Chapel, said Saturday he sees the empty space formerly occupied by the Lee statue as creating a new opportunity to heal the ongoing racism problems confronting the country.

The gap "in many ways represents a hole in the heart of the United States and the ongoing struggles of racism, hatred and bigotry - all the things we're seeing in our streets. We haven't come as far as perhaps we thought we had come as a nation," Powery said.

Don't try it in Texas.


http://libertyparkpress.com/po...ss-with-our-statues/

Houston man charged with trying to plant bomb at Confederate statue in Hermann Park

http://www.chron.com/news/hous...at-Rice-11946918.php

Houston man has been charged with trying to plant explosives at the statue of Confederate officer Richard Dowling in Hermann Park, federal officials said Monday.

Andrew Schneck, 25, who was released from probation early last year after being convicted in 2015 of storing explosives, was charged in a criminal complaint filed in federal court, Acting U.S. Attorney Abe Martinez said in a statement Monday.

Schneck was arrested Saturday night after a Houston park ranger spotted him kneeling in bushes in front of the Dowling monument in the park, Martinez said.

When confronted Saturday night in the park, he tried to drink some of the liquid explosives but spit it out, officials said.

The ranger then asked if he planned to harm the statute, and he said he did because he did not "like that guy," according to a sworn statement submitted in federal court by an FBI agent investigating the case.

BACKGROUND: FBI, ATF, Houston Police swarm street near Museum District

Schneck was holding two small boxes that included a viable explosive, a timer, wires connected to a homemade detonator, a battery and an explosive compound. He told law enforcement he had other chemicals at his home on Albans Road near Rice University.

Federal authorities said one of the tubes contained nitgroglycerin and hexamethylene triperoxide diamine, HMTD, a "highly explosive compound" used as a primary explosive. Nitroclycerin, in its purest form, is a contact explosive.

"ln its undiluted form, [nitroglycerin] is one of the world's most powerful explosives," according to the statement.

Schneck was arrested about 11 p.m. Saturday in the park, a source said, following a day of protests that drew hundreds of people to Sam Houston Park protesting a Spirit of the Confederacy statue. The Saturday event also drew counter-protesters.

The details emerged as authorities on Monday evacuated residents near a home owned by Schneck's parents, in a neighborhood six blocks north of Rice University.

Residents living on Albans Road, between Hazard and Wilton streets, were urged 10 a.m. to leave their homes, according to an emergency alert from the city of Houston. Decision was made "out of an abundance of caution," said Larry Satterwhite, an assistant Houston police chief who oversees the Homeland Security Command.

The alert warned residents that disposing of the material could cause loud noises, smoke and damage to nearby property.

The source of the commotion was a single house at 2025 Albans, according to the Houston Police Department.

Investigators were in and out the house all morning. By 9:15 a.m., FBI agents had set up a blue tent on the front lawn, presumably to review evidence. An agent wheeled a large plastic bin labeled "sample collection" toward the roped-off house.

Satterwhite said "significant hazardous materials" were found at the home, but didn't say what type they were.

"It's a lot," he said. "There's a significant amount of material in them ... Some very hazardous materials were found."

Law enforcement agents are planning controlled detonations of the materials, Satterwhite said. He added a utility company cut off gas service before the blasts, which will likely happen Monday afternoon.

Neither Satterwhite nor FBI officials would confirm whether a suspect was in custody, in connection with the hazardous materials. They also would not address if the scene is related to a possible bomb threat to a Confederate statue in nearby Hermann Park.

When asked whether authorities had used robots and haz-mat suits, Satterwhite replied, "We've used it all."

The assistant police chief said there was no threat to the public outside of the controlled area.

"We have this under control," Satterwhite said, adding that authorities are "really confident this is contained."

The searches Monday followed an all-night "enforcement operation" led by the FBI.

Deron Ogletree, an assistant special-agent-in-charge in the FBI's Houston office, said experts came in from the national training center at Quantico, Virginia, as well as other FBI offices in Dallas and New Orleans.

"We've been working long hours since Saturday evening," Ogletree said, refusing to share any more information.

Vehicles with the FBI, the Houston Police Department and the Houston Fire Department were in the 2000 block of Albans Monday morning to assist the federal agency.

A Hazmat unit arrived about 8:30 a.m. Law enforcement personnel wearing shirts including "FBI Technical Hazards Response Unit" and "FBI Evidence Response Team" swarmed the block.

Federal agents have raided 2025 Albans before. In 2013, a multi-agency team stormed the home owned by Houston art community staple Cecily E. Horton, and her husband, Andrew Schneck. Agents also searched a Memorial-area homed then owned by the couple and a condo in Bryan.

Officials said at the time that the couple's 22-year-old Andrew Cecil Earhart Schneck was the focus of the law enforcement interest. A source initially said the raid was sparked by chemicals that could be used to make nerve gas or tear gas.

After combing through all three scenes, the FBI found a military-grade explosive called picric acid at the Memorial area home on Fall River.

The following year, the younger Schneck was sentenced to five years of probation after pleading guilty in federal court to knowingly storing explosives. In 2016, a judge released him from probation ahead of schedule.

Shauna Dunlap, special agent with the Houston office of the FBI, confirmed the agency was leading the operation, but also declined to provide further information.

The Dowling statue, built in 1905, honors Richard William Dowling, who served as a Civil War lieutenant for the Confederacy.

Dowling was a Houston businessman before enlisting. The city named Dowling Street in his honor until changing its name to Emancipation Avenue earlier this year. The statue, made of marble, was the first publicly financed monument in Houston, according to the city's website.

The debate over its placement has spanned years, though a 1958 Houston Chronicle article acknowledged that "there probably are only a few Houstonians who have more than a hazy idea about Dick Dowling's contribution to Texas history."

"Shouldn't the city of his adoption revere the memory of such a daring young man and his exploits sufficiently to display the statue and keep it in good repair?" a front-page piece asked.

Noted Houston defense attorney Dick DeGuerin lives near the home where the searches continued Monday. He said a fire captain told him that he and his wife, who has a broken knee, were among those who should evacuate their home.

"They just told us to evacuate, and they told us it's pretty bad," DeGuerin said.

He said the law enforcement response Monday was "an order of magnitude" greater than the response to the hazmat situation at the same house in 2013.

In that instance, DeGuerin said authorities learned that a young man who lives there with his parents had ordered explosive materials over the internet.

Travis Broesche, another neighbor, said he wasn't too concerned by the raid.

"I'm appreciative of law enforcement," said Broesche, adding that this investigation has lasted much longer than the 2013 raid.

One friend who knew Schneck from their years together at Memorial High School in Spring Branch ISD described him as an awkward loner who never had a girlfriend and seemed to struggle with social interactions.

"I can't even think of a single friend he had, to be perfectly honest," he said.

He was nicknamed Ace from his initials.

"None of this is surprising," the former classmate added. "He seems a bit disconnected from reality."

During their senior year of high school, according to Schneck's classmate, the awkward teen wrote a "manifesto" dedicated to some of the school's popular girls, decrying how their boyfriends treated them and saying he could have done better.

After high school graduation in 2010, the two lost touch and Schneck's classmate didn't hear news of him again until news outlets started reaching out for comment in the aftermath of the 2014 case.

Hilarious!

Video is in the link:



https://twitter.com/UncleChang...20%2Fentry-212394%2F

Annnnnnnd it looks like Texas University, located in the Libtard bastion of the state's capital city, has joined the inane idiocy....

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us...es-overnight-n794411

Leave it to Charles Barkley to speak words to reason on this ridiculous topic. I disagree with Charles use of the word 'stupid' in reference to the statues (I get the context though), but the rest of his message is spot on. Unfortunately, none of these BLM and Antifa morons will hear a word of it.

Can't post the video but you can find it at the link. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...ument-issue-n2371000

Make real efforts to identify anyone who defaces or destroys a monument or statue, prosecute for a felony (property damage over some small amount usually qualifies), throw them in jail for a year or more, and demand total restitution costs. Publicize these proceedings widely. (I'd be good with the Stocks and/or Pillory, too, but I doubt the courts would allow it.)

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Seattle? Seattle?! ' Tha fuck does Washington State have to do with the Confederacy? They didn't even know there was a damn war until it was over...there was what, 1,000 people living there at the time?

You must have missed the History Channel special on that. It also featured Washington at Gettysburg.