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I'm seeing lots of videos lately of people (idiots) charging cops and getting shot because of it. All unarmed and mostly females cops. Isnt it sometimes necessary to just kick the crap outta someone and not use a gun? I know people are gonna say it's a female cop and "what if"...Just saying I've seen numerous of these exact instances. | ||
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| The Ice Cream Man |
Think knife or AIDS needle…. | |||
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Void Where Prohibited |
YES "If Gun Control worked, Chicago would look like Mayberry, not Thunderdome" - Cam Edwards | |||
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What does a cop owe anyone charging at them, which is never a non aggressive move? Why should a cop, male or female, risk any bodily harm? How would any cop know they could easily subdue a stranger? Tase them first, sure, if that doesn’t work. Dirt nap em. Nine years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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Exactly what examples (I'm seeing lots of videos lately....) can you provide to back up this claim and question? There are so many scenarios possible to answer such a vague statement. ************************* Chaos, panic and disorder. My work here is done........ Not everyone gets the same version of me. One person might tell you I'm an amazing beautiful soul. Another person will say I'm a cold-hearted asshole. Believe them both. I act accordingly...... | |||
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If you're speaking of running down a human being, and especially running down a police officer after being ordered to stop, then you deserve to get stopped right there. If you get dead in they process that's on you. So if I'm understanding your question, absolutely yes. Running down human beings with two to four tons of steel most definitely justifies justifiable self defense against unlawful deadly force. But there's one more fact you might have forgotten, and that is police officers have ADDITIONAL sworn duty to use force OFFENSIVELY to protect everyone else, not just themselves. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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No sir, I’m just asking about unarmed people charging at police on foot. I’m having trouble attaching links, but if you Google “Juan Barbosa shooting Facebook” is one . Another would be “ Christopher Mercurio shooting”. | |||
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Yes. There's no reason to assume they're unarmed. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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So back to the OP's original question, if you were an officer, and a piece of shit was running at you full bore with the clear intent to flatten you to the asphalt, and you had full intentions of going home at the end of your shift, and you also had a legal and sworn obligation to stop him before he picked his next victim, and if you had no other way to stop him right there, what would YOU do ? I'm guessing you would just let him put you in the hospital, or the morgue, just based on your original question. Remember these things can be hard in live real time with less than a second or two to respond, and we don't live in a perfect world. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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Respectfully, I disagree. Let me first start off by saying I totally get the cops have a tough job and for the most part I support 100% what they do and I also hate shitheads. Having said that on its face, I believe just running out a police officer unarmed isn’t justification to be shot. That’s why police are given self-defense training and issued intermediate weapons. Are you seriously saying that just running at a police officer even if it’s to tackle him or punch him is justification to use deadly force? | |||
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So, if YOU are a LEO, would you be confident to defeat all criminals in hand to hand combat, 100% guaranteed? Without injury to yourself? "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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No way. But again, that’s why you’re given DT training. Intermediate tools. A radio. Feet to disengage. You can’t say what if and think that justifies deadly force . What if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. | |||
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How is the cop supposed to that you’re unarmed? If I was to run at you full tilt would your first thought be that I was just running to say hi and I was unarmed? | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
“Just Running At The Police“ covers a broad range of scenarios. The officer has to make a fast decision. As for the assailant, life is hard. It’s harder if you’re stupid. Running at the police is stupid. Serious about crackers. | |||
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If individuals perceive they can run at police and not be shot, some of them will then start doing this with a hidden knife. You have to draw the line somewhere, and those cops want to go home at the end of their shift, every day. -c1steve | |||
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If I was a strong, fit, large, male and a small female with no weapon visible was running at me, no I wouldn't use lethal force to stop her. OTOH if the situation were reversed and I was a small male, or female, and a larger, likely stronger, male was running at me to attack I would certainly use my gun, that's what it's for. No car is as much fun to drive, as any motorcycle is to ride. | |||
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If a complete stranger charges me, my wife, my kids kids, or grand kids, the mother fucker is going to get shot. End of story. | |||
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You are on SigForum. There is a fair chance you carry. If someone charges you with apparent ill intent, what are you going to do? Me, I’m shooting. Cops are no different. Threaten them with significant bodily harm? Get shot until you stop. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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| Partial dichotomy |
Why would anyone run at a cop? That just goes against any normal thinking. SIGforum: For all your needs! Imagine our influence if every gun owner in America was an NRA member! Click the box>>>  | |||
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| Green grass and high tides  |
There was a video posted in a thread here where a cop made the mistake and it cost him his life. Iirc he was stabbed in the neck. That was maybe six or eight months ago. So I do not want that to happen again. It was terrible. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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