"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
August 16, 2023, 10:02 AM
parabellum
Time for a reality check:
August 16, 2023, 10:09 AM
smschulz
Seems I see more and more who initially were all-in for DeSantis are switching to Trump.
Could be for a lot of reasons but one I heard on a CNN clip where they were tracking DeSantis voters or similar that stated: {sic} "I don't particularly like Trump but I recognize he was/is the best for the country".
Says it all.
August 16, 2023, 10:20 AM
DanH
DeSantis seems to be losing supporters at a faster speed than Dan Crenshaw by listening to the same uniparty trash in Washington. I'm not saying it would be easy going against Trump, but you can still keep supporters by pointing out the great things Trump did and point out some of his shortcomings and improve on that.
At this point, we might as well start calling him Rick Perry or Jeb Bush after this flameout.
August 16, 2023, 10:28 AM
stickman428
I’d love to see Vivek as Trumps running mate.
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August 16, 2023, 10:38 AM
Gustofer
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Originally posted by DanH: At this point, we might as well start calling him Rick Perry or Jeb Bush after this flameout.
Scott Walker.
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August 16, 2023, 10:47 AM
abnmacv
DeSantis should adopt as a campaign theme song Roy Orbison's "It's Over."
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August 16, 2023, 10:53 AM
chellim1
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Originally posted by stickman428: I’d love to see Vivek as Trumps running mate.
I think that's a reasonable possibility.
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Seems I see more and more who initially were all-in for DeSantis are switching to Trump.
Yup. DeSantis lost it when he denied election fraud:
The Monday headline on Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in the New York Times said, unintentionally, exactly what is wrong with the GOP Establishment’s response to former President Donald Trump. The headline:
DeSantis Bluntly Acknowledges Trump’s 2020 Defeat: ‘Of Course He Lost’
The Times reports this:
Mr. DeSantis, who is polling well behind Mr. Trump for the Republican presidential nomination, had acknowledged on Friday that the former president’s false theories about a rigged 2020 election were “unsubstantiated.”
Say what? Allegations that the 2020 election were rigged are “unsubstantiated.” Really?
The governor failed to mention that journalist and Federalist editor-in-chief Mollie Hemingway, among others, has extensively documented one episode after another of election rigging in 2020.
Indeed, Mollie’s book is titled Rigged: How the Media, Big Tech, and the Democrats Seized Our Elections.
Apparently, DeSantis hasn’t read the book — and he should.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
August 16, 2023, 11:04 AM
DanH
At the very least, Vivek is wrangling for a cabinet position with the support he's given Trump along with him suing the DOJ for Civil Rights Violations. There's some people on YouTube trying to make Trump/RFK Jr. a thing but I doubt that will happen.
August 16, 2023, 11:09 AM
12131
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Originally posted by DanH: There's some people on YouTube trying to make Trump/RFK Jr. a thing but I doubt that will happen.
Yeah, not a chance. Jr. has always been against the covid "vaccine", and Trump has never admitted that vaccine scam he touted was a huge mistake.
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August 16, 2023, 11:15 AM
Veeper
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Trump has never admitted that vaccine scam he touted was a huge mistake
I sincerely doubt he was in on the scam, and if you look at the scope of his betrayal by bureaucrats, it lines up with all the other kidney punches and back-stabs he took.
I'm not saying he's not culpable. Gullible probably.
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken
August 16, 2023, 11:22 AM
chellim1
^^ Yeah, he was duped to stand on the stage with Fauci and Birx.
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Trump has never admitted that vaccine scam he touted was a huge mistake
But he ought to admit it was a mistake. I support Trump, but I would like him even more if he could admit there were mistakes because some of his personnel decisions weren't so good. Most specifically his Attorney General selections. Jeff Sessions set up the entire Mueller investigation which handicapped his presidency.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
August 16, 2023, 11:34 AM
12131
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Originally posted by Veeper:
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Trump has never admitted that vaccine scam he touted was a huge mistake
I sincerely doubt he was in on the scam, and if you look at the scope of his betrayal by bureaucrats, it lines up with all the other kidney punches and back-stabs he took.
I'm not saying he's not culpable. Gullible probably.
That's what I meant. I got suckered into it. But, seeing the damage from the scam after he left office, he should have said something. He never did. A lot of his supporters were pissed about that.
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August 16, 2023, 11:34 AM
DanH
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Originally posted by 12131: Yeah, not a chance. Jr. has always been against the covid "vaccine", and Trump has never admitted that vaccine scam he touted was a huge mistake.
I'm going to go on the limb and say Trump never intended or thought the vaccine would turn into a cult and the government would use every dirty trick in the book to either get everyone to take it or risk "the consequences."
And if Trump was president every pro vax liberal would all be anti-vaxxers.
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I support Trump, but I would like him even more if he could admit there were mistakes because some of his personnel decisions weren't so good.
It wouldn't do anything to democrats or never trumpers, but that would go a long way to secure the Trump-Agnostics of the Republican party that would support him reluctantly.
August 16, 2023, 11:58 AM
oddball
One thing about Trump and the vaccine- he never thought it should have been mandated from govt. or employers, he always envisioned it similar to the flu vaccine; take it or leave it.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
August 16, 2023, 12:18 PM
chellim1
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he never thought it should have been mandated from govt. or employers
Yes, and that's a HUGE difference between Trump and the Democrat socialists.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
August 16, 2023, 12:59 PM
BOATTRASH1
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Originally posted by stickman428: I’d love to see Vivek as Trumps running mate.
NO. This weekend I saw on a feed that I get where he was being interviewed and was asked if he would pardon Biden family members. He answered yes he would that we need to move past this and bring the country together. HELL NO. The guilty crooked A holes need to be tried, found guilty and punished. It will never stop if there are no consequences!
August 16, 2023, 01:28 PM
DanH
You seriously think Trump wouldn't go after the Bidens even if he makes Vivek VP?
If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die!
August 16, 2023, 02:21 PM
P220 Smudge
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Originally posted by BOATTRASH1: NO. This weekend I saw on a feed that I get where he was being interviewed and was asked if he would pardon Biden family members. He answered yes he would that we need to move past this and bring the country together. HELL NO. The guilty crooked A holes need to be tried, found guilty and punished. It will never stop if there are no consequences!
Right, and Kamala Harris basically came out and called Joe Biden a racist in the primary. Look how that worked out. If Ramaswami were offered the VP, I betcha he'd get in line. Figure a term under Trump's tutelage without stabbing him in the back, and if he's smart he doesn't pull a DeSantis afterwards, the guy could do well when it's over.
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