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We do a lot of talking about how the US is failing to secure our southern border. But if the Mexicans made any real effort to secure their side of the border, then our problems would be greatly reduced. The conditions inside Mexico represent a grave threat to US security. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Why would Mexico care? How would it benefit Mexico? It doesn't do anything FOR Mexico but drain them of money & resources. Do you think Mexico cares that a bunch of their poorer people are fleeing? Do you think Mexico remotely cares about the pipeline of drugs that runs through Mexico into the US for the past how many decades? ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Told cops where to go for over 29 years… |
I’ll go one step farther… It is in Mexico’s interest to have an open border. The human and drug smuggling is the single greatest source of income for the cartels and that income is what corrupts the Mexican government and police officials. It also creates a constant “issue” for our politicians (on both sides of the aisle) to raise money and gain power as they argued over what to do about it. The issue is just like how big pharma addresses a major disease… Cure it and be famous or simply treat it and reap UNLIMITED amounts of money in perpetuity… What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???  | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Addiction is complex and beyond the interest of Big Pharma. The best they can come up with is Suboxone which is a big money maker | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The problem begins with the corrupt Government in Mexico City. I have been to Mexico a number of times, but never to the resort areas. It has been a number of years. The people are quite friendly and I enjoyed my time there. | |||
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Shut off all money transfers to Mexico and they will close their borders within a week. Its possible to shut it off but there really is no desire. | |||
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| Big Stack |
Or would they become more dependent on the smuggled in drug cash? Not to mention that all the big US businesses that do business in Mexico will call in favors from the politicians whose campaigns they fund to stop this.
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His Royal Hiney |
Same way we cleaned up Afghanistan? That worked out pretty well, didn't it? "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| His Royal Hiney |
He's not talking about addiction but any problem. It isn't in bureaucrats' self-interest to cure / solve the problem because it they do that, they'd work themselves out of a job. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| Big Stack |
I'm thinking more like how we developed CA, AZ, NM. Afghanistan is 8000-ish miles away. You can literally walk to Mexico from the US, and very much visa versa. We can't wall off this problem, as much as lots of people would like. Either we solve it there, or it spreads, or more accurately keeps spreading, here.
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Remains to be seen how this plays out. It's not a coincidence that Chapito is rounded up and Biden's visit is in a few days. AMLO screwed up by releasing Guzman couple of years ago, now he'll likely offer him up to the US for some concessions or, re-set any negotiating talks. | |||
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| His Royal Hiney |
Are the kind of people and government that developed CA, AZ, and NM still around today in sufficient numbers to accomplish this? "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| Big Stack |
The current crew? No. Are they out there? Probably. At some point the S will HTF and something is going to have to be done, and someone will have to step up. You always want to fight your wars on the enemy's territory.
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It’s not just a border problem, although there’s certainly a higher density of turds near it. Criminal invaders are all over the US now, whether shipped there by themselves, the cartels, or our criminal federal government. There’s never been a better reason for traveling anywhere armed at this point. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Plata o plomo. Imagine you are the elected dog turd collector in Culiacan. Some hombre de cartel hands you an envelope with $1000 and a pistol cartridge. Which do you chose? The money, because the odds of a cartel boss killing you over not collecting dog turds is low, and if the hombre de cartel does want you dead, you’re dead. Now, imagine you are the elected governor in Culiacan. Some hombre de cartel hands you an envelope with $100,000 and a pistol cartridge. Which do you chose? Tougher question. You lack the resources to defeat the cartel without the federales help, and the cartel owns them, so forget that idea. Your protection detail may be on the cartel payroll, so you can’t rely on them. What do you do? If Mexico wants to eliminate the cartels, declare Brazilian street justice and start arming the law abiding and shooting the cartelo members on sight. It’s what they do, flip the map. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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So can this same technique be applied here, at least in USA border towns? Cartel handing the local police chief or mayor $$$$ and a pistol cartridge? | |||
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| Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Yes, and it likely is. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Problem is the locals in Sinoloa support the cartels, unlike the peasants in the film, Magnificent Seven. | |||
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I suspect most locals do not support the cartels. They put up with them, but probably wish they were not there. I spent a year total in Mexico and Central America, and this is just my opinion. -c1steve | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
Over the long haul, terroristic tactics never engender the local population. They pretty much always alienate the locals. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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