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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
^^^ You wish we were painting with a broad brush. We're not bashing California, we're talking specifically about what we've seen Californians do when they finally migrate back to the rest of the country. It really does happen, it really does happen consistently, and it really is a problem. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
My daughter and new son-in-law were at the Navy Post-graduate school in Monterrey. It's a beautiful place. They enjoyed the two years there, but couldn't wait to get out. Now, they are in Millington, TN. AND they are homeowners now, which certainly wasn't possible in Cali. It didn't take them a week to get Tennessee driver's licenses.  They are happy to be back in Free America... and don't worry... neither one of them is a lib. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Still finding my way |
Explaining what we've witnessed many times with our own eyes is "painting with a broad brush"? If you were in some of our shoes you'd be standing watch at the CA boarder prepared to repel invaders. | |||
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| Conservative in Nor Cal constantly swimming up stream  |
I understand you guys. I live in the Bay Area. I'm just in a mood and I feel like I'm being attacked. Human nature to defend myself... You would want me as a neighbor. ----------------------------------- Get your guns b4 the Dems take them away Sig P-229 Sig P-220 Combat | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Well, there's the first step, then. Move to Texas and you will (and I speak from experience) spend a A LOT less time feeling like you're being attacked. | |||
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Consider yourself a free American held captive behind enemy lines. BTW, I am an Illinois native, but lived in the Bay Area for 17 years before leaving for Florida. Really, what the others are saying is true, it takes awhile to get used to freedom and adjust your mindset. Don't take it personally, it is the way it is. This space intentionally left blank. | |||
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| Crusty old curmudgeon  |
It seems like a broad brush but I've seen what the mass migration of Californians did to Seattle in the 80's and 90's. It's become the stepchild of the Bay Area. Jim ________________________ "If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird | |||
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| Still finding my way |
Since you're a member here I'd give you the benefit of the doubt that you are an exception to the rule.  | |||
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Legalize the Constitution |
If only this were true _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
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Objectively Reasonable |
I grew up not far from there. It IS a beautiful area. Until Fort Ord closed, the steady stream of people ETSing/retiring-- and staying-- coupled with the retiree-friendly medical, commissary, and Exchange presence, provided a nice counterweight to the moonbats in the area. That balance isn't there any more. I moved away in 1990 and last visited around 10 years ago. Even then, it was like visiting a foreign country. Actually, it was worse... more like visiting my own home but discovering that a hostile foreign force (ala Red Dawn) had taken over. Geographically, most of California is right-leaning, but like other infected places the politics are driven by comparatively small crappy, leftist enclaves. I miss the Monterey I grew up in, and would even swallow the insane real estate prices / cost of living but for the liberal insanity. | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
The fact that almost all of the money in the state chooses to live in what are liberal enclaves doesn't help. Somehow I don't think there was anyone bundling donations for Trump in Las Calabasas or Presidio Heights. | |||
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| Crusty old curmudgeon |
I spent 1 1/2 years at Ft. Ord in the late 60's and I loved the area and people (with exception to the hippies) and I thought that I might want to move there. I'm really glad that idea didn't pan out. Such a shame. Jim ________________________ "If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Is that what happened in Oregon, Washington and Colorado. Huh. And here I was thinking those states had turned into echos of California insanity. Goes to show what I know. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Novice Elk Harvester |
Jesus, give some of us the benefir of the doubt. I know how to vote for conservative values, and have since the first time I could vote. That will not change when I move, and I’ll be damned if I would be deprived of my right to vote because millions of other idiots here have ruined it for people like me. "SUCCESS only comes before WORK in the dictionary" | |||
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ahh yes, the bash CA thread...never mind those living behind the lines. The CA exodus narrative goes like this: - Individual is originally from Nowhere-ville Back East. - Individual goes to big school like Michigan, Virginia, Duke or, the hundreds of liberal private colleges in New England. - Individual graduates and gets first job in CA, possibly has gf/bf tag along on their first 'adult adventure' - New graduate survives the first three years, and becomes settled in ideal job, goes through several rentals, dates everyone, and returns to family during the holidays bragging about how great CA is. Family rolls their eyes. - Individual meets life-long mate and marry's. They try to continue living in CA but, conclude there's no way financially, work presents other opportunities and they decide to move back to where they came from or, a neighboring state that has an urban center. They proudly proclaim themselves Californians and commiserate with other back-east CA transplants. Thus, is the story of CA exodus. Thank you for taking them. | |||
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| Unapologetic Old School Curmudgeon  |
My new neighbors are California liberals. They said they left because of the expense of living there, so they transferred here. They are hardcore libs, whining about our gun laws, hillbilly TN folk, why can't we be more "woke" blah blah blah. First time I met them I basically ended up saying fuck off and don't ever talk to me again. My wife was pretty mad at me for being such an ass, but she hates them too. I turned down a large promotion several years ago because I refused to move my family to San Francisco. I have never for a second regretted it. Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day | |||
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| Unapologetic Old School Curmudgeon |
PR, I'll bet I would love you as a neighbor. Any forum member would be someone I would like to have around. Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day | |||
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I know one or three people here in Virginia that are like this. And when they get together they can't stop talking about how great Kalifornia is. One of them is a gent in his early 70s who has been unemployed for going on nine months. He's got a typical Kalifornia mindset: I'm too damn good to take a job less than V.P. of a company. He and his wife have put their local house on the market with an eye toward moving back. He now bitches that no one is offering to buy his house. Never occurs to him that he's overpriced it. Wears his Polo status symbols everywhere and is always the first to name drop all the people he knows. I've given up trying to get him to stop looking down his nose. The company I work for is headquartered in the Bay area. Most of the employees I know are nice enough. But they're like people living in abusive relationships. Even if they know it's bad, they fear it's worse somewhere else. You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless. NRA Benefactor/Patriot Member | |||
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I still have close friends in the Bay Area and all will leave upon retirement and cash out their house equity for other locations. Lots of influx in to Oregon / Washington of retirees as well as young folk hoping to buy a house. Although PDX metro is getting pricey - about where the SF bay area was 20 years ago. But, yes, they bring their funny liberal crap with them. Oregon is one seat away in the legislature from becoming California like. Crap. My friends are all conservative - but are stuck due to jobs. We're all in our mid to late 50's so job change, or a new job similar one are hard to get. How the average person can survive in Califronia boggles my mind. 120-140K a year salary there really is not that much considering the cost of housing there. I know in my old hood where I grew up, it seems that extended families are living in 40 year old 1300-1500 sq ft houses. 1900's era type of living conditions in metro / urbanized areas. -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master. Ayn Rand "He gains votes ever and anew by taking money from everybody and giving it to a few, while explaining that every penny was extracted from the few to be giving to the many." Ogden Nash from his poem - The Politician | |||
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Maybe all the libtards will die off of thirst with Gov. Moonbeam trying to tax their drinking water. Shit like that just pushes the crazies out of Ca. into Tx and elsewhere. | |||
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