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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
My condo building only allows the Schlage locks (for aesthetic consistency). The Schlage Sense that was on the door crapped out about 1 year after we moved in (it was 6 years old at that time). I replaced it with a Schlage Encode. Very happy with it so far. Easy to install and use.

Ahh yes, the good old HOA

God forbid you have another brand, a vortex might open up and the entire universe gets sucked in

It's Karen approved!

I have Schlage Encode and Yale and like them both.

I have had 3 Nest Yale smart locks in our houses in Texas. Always have gone back to it.

We bought another house recently and did a lot of readings on Amazon, CNET and other sites. UltraLoq, August, Yale, etc. Talked with my brother who has had the August unit for years. And again we went back to Nest Yale unit. This is our 4th unit now.

It has no key to pick. Uses standard AA batteries (4 of them) which lasts a long time. It notifies you thru the app and the lock when batteries are low. And even if you ignore those notifications and it dies, you can run to the store to get a 9v battery to juice it from the outside and punch in your code to enter, so no lockout, no physical key to pick or hide somewhere.

The latest 4th Gen August doesn't use AA batteries anymore but those 2032 batteries iirc and some reviews said that they chew thru those quite rapidly. UltraLoq reviews said that the fingerprint is nice but not working properly for many people. Also the buttons could show wear with repeated use. But in any case UltraLoq seems interesting and much cheaper than Nest Yale from stores and it was a tough decision for me between it and the Nest Yale. In the end though I decided to go back to the trusted one over the years and got the Nest Yale on eBay new for about $170 shipped.

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Originally posted by aileron:

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Originally posted by Bluecobra:
I have had the Schlage dead bolts with the keypad but no key access, for 6 years. No keyway, nothing to pick.

If the battery dies there are 2 terminals on the keypad that you touch a 9 volt battery to and it powers the keypad so you can open the door. Batteries last 3-4 years for me here in the south.

^^^ These Schlage locks are good too ^^^
aileron

Reviving old thread.

Is this Schlage okay?
https://www.amazon.com/Schlage...KIKX0DER&s=hi&sr=1-8

Or this one?
https://www.amazon.com/BE365-C...KIKX0DER&s=hi&sr=1-1

I'm using a similar Schlage, not deadbolt, just handle lock, for an interior door.

Would plan to use the deadbolt for exterior door but not sure if it's safe/secure and reliable enough.

This is what I have, but I have had to replace it once. I thought it should have lasted a bit longer, but so far the new one has been okay. I got the same model for ease of replacement and covering up any disturbed paint.

https://www.amazon.com/Schlage..._grid_rp_0_97_t&th=1

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Reviving old thread.

Is this Schlage okay?
https://www.amazon.com/Schlage...KIKX0DER&s=hi&sr=1-8

Or this one?
https://www.amazon.com/BE365-C...KIKX0DER&s=hi&sr=1-1

I'm using a similar Schlage, not deadbolt, just handle lock, for an interior door.

Would plan to use the deadbolt for exterior door but not sure if it's safe/secure and reliable enough.

I have both of these locks on different doors of my house. The main diff with the two is that the one with the keyhole on it is thicker than the other. Because of the protrusion of the keyhole/handle it does not fit behind some storm doors. The handle on the storm door will hit the handle on the lock, or it did on mine anyway. That is the main reason why I bought the first model without the keyhole. They are slimmer and work behind the storm door on my shop entry. I have 3 of the slimmer lock and 2 of the other and have had no problems with any of them. I put them on the house when we first bought it 8 years ago.

Good to have first hand experience. Sounds like they are okay. I know this is subjective but do you feel / do you know if these locks are at least as secure as a normal deadbolt (respectable brand and model in similar price band)?

I'm assuming yes but looking for some third party assurance before I commit. Any reservations with respect to security w/ these locks?

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Originally posted by konata88:

do you know if these locks are at least as secure as a normal deadbolt (respectable brand and model in similar price band)?

I'm assuming yes but looking for some third party assurance before I commit.

We had one on the hangar door at Our Little Airport. My partner (at the time) needed to get the v-tail out for a business trip, but the lock malfunctioned and would not open. It took him just a few minutes to find a youtube video showing just where to drill, and then took him about thirty seconds to by-pass the lock using a drill borrowed from the aircraft maintenance shop in the hangar opposite ours.

Thanks. Okay, seems like I should be okay assuming that these locks have the same security and failings as regular deadbolts. This is mostly about convenience in case of lost keys and such scenarios.

Don't want to make break-ins any easier but also acknowledge that the weak link is still probably the back sliding glass door.

Sounds like these locks are as good to go as can be. Except for premature failures. That's what gives me pause. I need to keep a drill in the car now?

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Originally posted by konata88:

Okay, seems like I should be okay assuming that these locks have the same security and failings as regular deadbolts.

My experience (see the post just prior to yours), the Schlage keypad lock was much easier to defeat than a regular key-only deadbolt would have been. The key-only would not have had the same type of malfunction that the keypad lock had.

In our case, we went to the keypad type in order to grant limited access to the hangar for some people. Key lock would not have worked for this, once you give somebody a key, revoking access is like trying to squeeze the toothpaste back into the tube.

I can understand that the keypad may be considerably more prone to failure than a key deadbolt.

But aren't they both equally susceptible to being defeated by drilling? Or is there something about the keypad lock that makes it more easier to get around using a drill than the normal key only lock?

We went with York digitals on our and daughter's front door(also have one on back door. Daughter is in and out far more frequently than us - and we both have had them 6 years - with the only issue is a battery change on hers.