Fetterman election makes a good case for "the end is here."

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Originally posted by a1abdj:
Just thinking out loud.....

If we got rid of all of the people who think there are too many people we would have fewer people.

It's a win-win. No more people trying to control the population that we have to deal with AND it achieves their objective of population reduction.

I do believe there are too many people on the planet but I do not think I can decide who to eliminate.

Only in the left lane.

How does anybody still believe there’s too many people? Sure, there’s still a bubble of older people still alive from the 20th century baby boom, but if you look at how many people there are who are making babies, anybody can see that we are heading towards a demographic cliff. In 50 years the Chinese population will be halved. Almost all countries, save India, will be halved. The U.S. will stay close to where we are, but that’s only due to in migration.

Perhaps there’s not too many people, but too many old people. Now go watch Logan’s Run. The ice robot is fantastic.

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Originally posted by .38supersig:
Only in the left lane.

Both figuratively and literally.

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Can we toss a few stupid people in there too?

Yep. I don't know about too many people in general, but there are definitely too many stupid people. The planet wouldn't miss most of them.

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
Logan's Run

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by RichardC:
Yes.

Allow me to make a counter argument.

No.

I’m sorry, but you are both wrong.

I think the population and increase is sustainable if human nature is encouraged to evolve based on certain true principles. For example, if society -the world- would embrace and teach selflessness as a guiding principle to the young through their foundational period then there would be little crime, slothfulness, abuse, corruption, destruction and broken families. Think about how much government we could eliminate if everyone were selfless.

We wonder about too dense of a population because our fellow humans are a liability. Imagine if they were assets…and you were an asset to the population. Who would want fewer assets? It’s fantasy though since a global adoption of that one simple principle and its practice are highly unlikely without a general agreement on spiritual and moral codes. We can’t even do that in nor out of the church.

So, are there too many people? There are too many immoral people.

In my world, only the responsible can reproduce. One of the BIGGEST and WORST crimes is having others foot the bill for their children and livelihood.

The responsible instantly get out-babied by the irresponsible - again, one of the worst crimes!

Too many people or not enough people that care?

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For example, if society -the world- would embrace and teach selflessness as a guiding principle to the young through their foundational period then there would be little crime, slothfulness, abuse, corruption, destruction and broken families. Think about how much government we could eliminate if everyone were selfless.

That's the theory behind communism. It hasn't yet changed human nature, which is selfish. Drive and ambition lead some to succeed and have more than others.

^^^^^^^^^Communism doesn’t work because it’s compulsory. Man is hard wired for individual freedom. The trick is to combine selflessness with voluntary participation. That’s an oil/water relationship so it needs a spiritual emulsifier.

Our founding fathers had it right. One must acknowledge that people will put their own interests first; and a system of government that recognizes that will create institutions that allow those interests to counterbalance on another.
However, we are so far outside of the world created by those founding fathers that I am very pessimistic about the survival of that form of government.
All the major institutions of this country have been taken over by extreme leftists—call them cultural Marxists, whatever—and are all pushing us in the wrong direction.
We are being pushed in the direction of a stronger, more authoritarian central government, linked in ideology and economics with the largest corporations, especially the biggest tech companies.
Schools, colleges and universities are producing brainwashed mini-me Marxists that do not know or understand history, economics, and political theory, much less true math, science, etc.
They come out with their degree, are absorbed into large institutions where they will never be exposed to the realities of life.
For now, polls and surveys show that what is being pushed is contrary to what people SAY they want; but clearly half the country is voting against what they say they want.

If it were not for this uniform push away from reality and toward pseudo-science, bad economics, and distorted history, we could look forward to a bright future of unlimited energy, advances in medicine, and exploration of the planets and solar system. As for population, we know that the global population will stabilize later this century and will then fall. De-population is likely to be the long-term greater threat.

Global poverty could be solved—but not when the catastrophic fraud of global warming is pushing policies that will end the hopes of poor countries by depriving them of the energy that is one of the prime sources of prosperity.

Through most of my life I’ve been an optimist, and for good reason. I’m desperately trying to see how we reverse these multiple delusions that have descended on us at the same time: critical race theory; gender hysteria; climate hysteria—and I will remember others after I finish this.

Matt, thank you for a long and provocative essay that tries to tie together the intellectual currents that came together to create the scourge known as modernism.

The country I grew up in was self-confident, generous, and looked forward to a brighter future. The Left now views all that as evil.

Good post, Stan. Thanks!

" looting and riots in philly"

Maybe we need the question to be,
Is there a way to make bad people go away profitable ?

Because, the day people start making money from making bad people go away , is the day America will be great again.

There are way too many people making way too much money from horrible behavior..

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Originally posted by bendable:


Maybe we need the question should be,
Is there a way to make bad people go away profitable ?

Um, our injustice system has been making "for profit" prisons by the dozens for decades now.

That's a horrible behavior in itself.

But I do agree, we need to make bad people go away, I just wish we had a lot less stupid ways to define "bad".

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Maybe we need the question should be,
Is there a way to make bad people go away profitable ?

Um, our injustice system has been making "for profit" prisons by the dozens for decades now.

Prison is too good, and too temporary, for most of these people.