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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
And its the "Made you look" game. Been around forever.

Yep. I can recall playing it when I was kid back in the late 1980s/early 1990s, and it apparently predates that by a couple decades.

The best was popping it out from underneath a desk when your friends were walking into class. Got'em every damn time!

I saw the alleged incident real time during the pre-game. The West Point "WOOP" Cadet had pulled out a green Camo West Point Football Flag and held it up behind the ESPN announcer, but someone off screen must have signed for him to take it down, so he balled it up and put it away. Then he and the one next to him appeared to play the "made you look game".

This whole thing is soooo stoooopid.

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Originally posted by Sigolicious:
Oh for fuck sakes and fuck all. I learned this game in 1988 in the line shack when I was at VF-124 NAS Miramar. It was called the meat gazer game. Hold your hand in the OK sign below you waist. If someone notices and looks, you punch em in the arm for being a meat gazer. If they stick a finger through the O before you can move your hand, they punch you.

Played by the same rules in HS a few years before you learned it. You had to get REALLY creative after a while, or be very quick.

If we had a chance to get EVERYONE on national TV, absolutely we'd have done that.

Yep, I and basically every other guy in school played this game circa 1995, along with sling-a-pop, combs, slaps, and a couple other really stupid and often painful games that we entertained ourselves with. We were all idiots for sure, but none of it was the least bit racist.

This is such complete BS

A friend went to the Army-Navy game and said Trump was cheered there from the beginning to the end, no booing, no protesting and that was in solid blue Philly!

This is all designed to distract from that.

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
So I guess no one remembers these fine young ladies that got off with just a slap on the wrist, eh? GMAFB....

Actually they didn't get a slap on the wrist. The meaning (BLM) was erroneously assigned by someone not associated with the women which caused an uproar and subsequent investigation.
So, as others have pointed out that it's just a sophomoric game, it's likely the same scenario with the middies.

I played the circle game back in 1986-1990 while in high school especially on long trips with the baseball team.

We also played in OSUT training at Fort Knox, KY in 1992. Then it was a tension breaker, and to see who the meat gazers were. This was back when women were not allowed in Combat arms.

The picture posted by Kraquin makes me sick. They knew what they were doing, and the BS investigation was a joke. They will carry that attitude over to their units also. I have seen it and experienced it off and on since 1992.

The Anti-Defamation league has been pushing the white power meaning on every news show and webpage. it is sickening.

Keep using it as much as you want. Don't let a bunch of racists hijack another symbol for their own racist agendas.

We used to play the circle game in the 70's.........long before political correctness and hyper sensitivity.

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Originally posted by comet24:

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If someone notices and looks, you punch em in the arm for being a meat gazer. If they stick a finger through the O before you can move your hand, they punch you.

That's the way I learned it.

Had to teach it to my nephews a year or so ago.

Never heard of it or saw it. I'm almost 82, served 20 in USAF, and didn't hang out with gang members.

flashguy

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by comet24:

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If someone notices and looks, you punch em in the arm for being a meat gazer. If they stick a finger through the O before you can move your hand, they punch you.

That's the way I learned it.

Had to teach it to my nephews a year or so ago.

Never heard of it or saw it. I'm almost 82, served 20 in USAF, and didn't hang out with gang members.

flashguy

Sounds like something a gang member would say.

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Originally posted by flashguy:Never heard of it or saw it. I'm almost 82, served 20 in USAF, and didn't hang out with gang members.

USAF explains it - you were too busy playing golf or on leave.

These games continue to be popular in all boys boarding schools. With the exception of the service academies, most other college students have moved onto other manly pursuits such as beer pong.

I never heard of this game either...wish I did. In the version of "meat gazer" that I was subjected to in the infantry, they just pulled out their junk, I'd have preferred this version.

OK, I'll admit when at a big Ranger Regt. exercise/reunion someone in my PLT "Meat gazed" a whole bus full of Rangers from another BN...that was pretty funny.

I didn't see anyone post about the 4Chan thing. I may have details wrong as I'm going from memory. But some online site 4Chan or something like that made a fake post. Totally a troll post saying that the "Okay" symbol was a white supremacy sign. The idea was to see if the idiots would fall for it. They have. My GFs kid got in trouble for doing it for a school picture. They claimed the white supremacy crap until they were educated on the origin and that he was doing the circle game.

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Originally posted by comet24:

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If someone notices and looks, you punch em in the arm for being a meat gazer. If they stick a finger through the O before you can move your hand, they punch you.

That's the way I learned it.

Had to teach it to my nephews a year or so ago.

Never heard of it or saw it. I'm almost 82, served 20 in USAF, and didn't hang out with gang members.

flashguy

Never in the military. Learned it as a kid. Probably around early middle school age but I'm not sure.

Our rules included if you stick your finger in the hole before it was moved you got two hits on the person. It could get out of control as sometimes the hits to the arm could get hard. Always had to remember if you really nailed someone they would return it at some point.

I think we grew out of it as we noticed girls.

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I didn't see anyone post about the 4Chan thing. I may have details wrong as I'm going from memory. But some online site 4Chan or something like that made a fake post. Totally a troll post saying that the "Okay" symbol was a white supremacy sign. The idea was to see if the idiots would fall for it. They have. My GFs kid got in trouble for doing it for a school picture. They claimed the white supremacy crap until they were educated on the origin and that he was doing the circle game.

Interesting. I found this article referring to the origin of this.
The article references 4chan as the originator.

https://www.adl.org/blog/how-t...lar-trolling-gesture

Cleared of White Power Gesture

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The U.S. Naval Academy and U.S. Military Academy at West Point on Friday cleared three cadets of wrongdoing after they were accused of making a white supremacist hand sign during annual Army-Navy football game.

“The evidence strongly supports a finding that the cadets were playing the ‘circle game,’ an internationally recognized game in which people attempt to trick someone else into looking at an okay-like hand gesture below the waist,” the service academies said in a report released Friday. “Sworn statements from all three cadets convey that their intention was to play the ‘circle game’ in order to garner attention from a national audience as well as surrounding cadets.”

In the “circle game,” another person caught looking at the “OK” sign receives a punch from the person signing. More recently, however, the “OK” hand sign has been coopted by a group of online racists who use the gesture to represent a “WP,” which stands for “white power,” according to the Anti-Defamation League.

“We are confident the hand gestures used were not intended to be racist in any way,” Naval Academy Superintendent Vice Admiral Sean Buck said in a statement.

Buck added however that the academy is “disappointed by the immature behavior” of the midshipmen and is “fully committed to preparing young men and women to become professional officers of competence, character, and compassion in the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps.”

“In this case, we recognize there is more work to be done,” Buck said.

Lt. Gen. Darryl A. Williams, superintendent of the U.S. Military Academy, expressed a similar sentiment, saying that while they had reason to believe the pranks of the cadets were innocent, “we must take allegations such as these very seriously.”

The internal investigation into the incident recommended that the academies “develop tactics, techniques, and/or procedures (TTPs) that define leader actions … that must be taken prior to public events, such as ESPN GameDay, in order to preserve the value of wide exposure events.”

The cadets will likely be punished for engaging in the game during the event.

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Buck added however that the academy is “disappointed by the immature behavior” of the midshipmen and is “fully committed to preparing young men and women to become professional officers of competence, character, and compassion in the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps.”“In this case, we recognize there is more work to be done,” Buck said.

Oh, please.

Wasn't this admiral EVER a college-age youth?

THIS WHOLE THING WAS A NON-ISSUE, that race-baiters used in order to provoke racial tension. The best thing they (USNA) could have done was to release the quoted statement but end it right after “We are confident the hand gestures used were not intended to be racist in any way."

Done. End. Don't give these knuckleheads the satisfaction of making the entire US Naval Academy shake and cower because somebody made a stupid, baseless accusation. These are college age kids under a tremendous amount of stress. Nothing is harmed by them goofing off just a little bit. THEY DID NOTHING WRONG, and therefore, no correction is necessary.

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AMEN, Hound Dog!!! I believe the picture I posted of the West Point Cadets is waaaaaaaay more representative of racism than what the press was trying to create here. And yet NOTHING was done and it lasted about 18 seconds in the news...

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Wasn't this admiral EVER a college-age youth?

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Yep. In another millenium. He has to say those sorts of things. I doubt the punishment will be severe. West Point and the Naval Academy do not look favorably upon this sort of thing. Stanford University is another story with their infamous band and antics from their students.

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Buck added however that the academy is “disappointed by the immature behavior” of the midshipmen and is “fully committed to preparing young men and women to become professional officers of competence, character, and compassion in the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps.”“In this case, we recognize there is more work to be done,” Buck said.

Oh, please.

Wasn't this admiral EVER a college-age youth?

Buck should have said it was part of simple prank kids play and it was an epic to get it on TV. Good job all around. These kids are going to embark on a very serious career. Have to be able to have fun and enjoy yourself it's part of blowing off steam.