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Brought to you by RINO Flake, et al. This would start as a redistribution scheme. Who knows where it would end. Thankfully it shouldn't get much support.



Sens. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., and Chris Coons, D-Del., on Wednesday introduced a carbon tax bill to combat climate change, just days before the end of the current session of Congress.

The bill is similar to bipartisan legislation introduced in the House last month that would tax carbon emissions and return the proceeds to American households as a dividend.

The House version was the first bipartisan carbon tax legislation introduced in nearly a decade.

That bill has eight co-sponsors, including Republican Reps. Francis Rooney of Florida, Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, and Dave Trott of Michigan, along with Rep. Ted Deutch of Florida, the Democratic co-chair of the bipartisan Climate Solutions Caucus.

Both the House and Senate bills would impose a tax of $15 per ton of carbon dioxide in 2019, increasing $10 each year, rising to nearly $100 per ton by 2030.

The legislation distributes all of the proceeds from the tax as a flat monthly rebate to American households.

Despite their poor chances of passage anytime soon, the bills represent an increasing willingness from at least some Republicans to address global warming and risk the wrath of many conservatives who view any form of carbon pricing as a tax increase.

"Republicans need to get serious about climate change," Flake said in a Twitter post Wednesday night, adding that his bill "provides an honest path to clean energy."

Flake, who is retiring, recently challenged Republicans to do more after the release of a United Nations report that said policymakers worldwide must set comprehensive policy such as a carbon tax to mitigate the worst consequences of climate change.

He called the report "pretty dire” in an interview with ABC’s “This Week” in October.

Asked whether Republicans are moving in the wrong direction on the issue, Flake said, "I think so," adding, "I hope that we can move along with the rest of the world and address this."

Flake also co-sponsored a carbon tax bill introduced by Bob Inglis, a former Republican House member from South Carolina, in 2009.

Many economists say a carbon tax is the most cost-effective way to fight climate change, because it raises the price of carbon-intensive products based on the damage they cause society — so consumers use less of them — and encourages producers to switch to cleaner alternatives if doing so costs less than paying the tax.

The House and Senate bills are intended as test cases for a carbon-fee-and-dividend model that distributes all of the revenue from the tax into equal portions in the form of a monthly rebate to American households, protecting them from higher energy costs.

Low- and middle-income households would receive more in rebates than they pay in taxes, the bill’s authors say, while high-income households would pay more than they receive.

Free market groups have been promoting a similar approach in recent months, with the backing of some oil and gas companies, viewing it as the most realistic way for Republicans to come on board, because it is revenue-neutral by not allowing the government to spend proceeds of the tax.

Houston-based ConocoPhillips this week committed $2 million over two years to a group promoting a carbon tax-and-dividend.

ConocoPhillips, after Exxon Mobil, is the second oil and gas giant to give money to Americans for Carbon Dividends, an advocacy organization that lobbies Congress to support a carbon tax-and-dividend plan proposed by the Climate Leadership Council, a group led by two former Republican secretaries of state, James Baker III and George Shultz.

"It is unprecedented to see both the House and Senate taking up bipartisan carbon pricing legislation at the same time," Mark Reynolds, executive director of the Citizens Climate Lobby, another group promoting a carbon tax, told the Washington Examiner. "Ambitious carbon pricing that benefits our economy and benefits people is amenable to both Republicans and Democrats, and it is gaining momentum."

Despite the inclusion of and outreach to Republicans, it’s unlikely the new bill, if it were re-introduced next Congress, or any carbon tax legislation can pass in 2019.



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At 56 years old and someone who is very slow to anger, I've never wanted to pound the hell out of someone as badly as I want to pound the hell out of Flake. This man is complete and total garbage and an attention whore of epic proportions. May he walk out in front of a huge truck this afternoon.


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This maggot has just dethroned McCain as the worst attention whore ever in the Senate.


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May he walk out in front of a huge truck this afternoon.




One that spews tons of carbon! Big Grin
 
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This maggot has just dethroned McCain as the worst attention whore ever in the Senate.




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Both those clowns can fuck right off.
 
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I can only hope that Flake does NOT return to Az. anytime.....any place!!!
 
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Somebody should tell these clowns what's going on in France:

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Being named a "Flake" couldn't be any more appropriate. That said his middle name is RINO FWIW. Big Grin Big Grin



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Another socialist wealth redistribution scheme in the guise of blaming proven bogus man made global warming. This is science fiction movie crap.
 
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Bipartisan would imply people with different political philosophies agreeing to something.

McFlake is a liberal and Chris Coons is a liberal. Two peas in a pod.

Carbon tax is up there with the stupidest ideas in history.



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Illustrates that the anthropogenic climate change cult is simply about wealth redistribution. Tell me, how does that change the climate back and reduce sea levels? Hmmmm?



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Sens. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., and Chris Coons, D-Del., on Wednesday introduced a carbon tax bill to combat climate change, just days before the end of the current session of Congress.



We know that Flake was well named! He is not just a flake, he is a RINO asshole.

I have to wonder just how much he really believes in that global warming bullshit. There is not evidence to support any of the BS, and if he does not know that then he is dumber than even I thought!

Know nothing about this "coons" other than that he is a democraP. But that is enough for me.

Wonder if they expect to make a financial killing on this shit, not unlike some other former politicraPs.


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Flakey Foont wants his good name back. Mad Mad






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Deport their ass to France.Let the yellow vests have at them.


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How is it, every time there is a proposed "solution" it's proposed to come out of my pocket?

Crazy common core math to determine everyone's "carbon tax"--they can get fucked.
 
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not going to make any traction and it will never get signed by Trump

its the last gasp of a delusional twunt hell-bent on doing everything he can to destroy the country in the few remaining days he has power



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Somebody needs to wipe the grin off of Flake's face. What a bastard.



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I really don't have much to say except: FUCK FLAKE AND COONS. Two Pieces of Shit politicians......but unfortunately they are only two, amonst many of these Scum Bag politicians. We really need to implement the Star Chamber for these parasites and the rest of them like Schumer, Waters and Pelosi,....and I can go on and on with the list of traitors within our government.
 
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