Thank goodness I didn't join the Air Force. Part of my hesitation was seeing this shit starting. I wouldn't have been able to stay in with all the non sense and politics.

None of the woke crap from the Navy, they're working on something critical to our warfighting capabilities:

https://www.stripes.com/branch...sailors-4053240.html

Navy will offer free maternity uniforms to hundreds of expectant sailors next year

BY JUAN KING• STARS AND STRIPES • DECEMBER 22, 2021

The Navy is looking for hundreds of pregnant sailors to help find the right fit for maternity uniforms.

The sea service is conducting a pilot program between Jan. 2 and Sept. 30, 2026, that will provide “a full array of authorized Navy maternity uniforms” to expectant sailors at no cost to them, according to an administrative message, NAVADMIN 284/21, which lays out the details.

The Navy is opening the program to 400 volunteers from enlisted and officer ranks in active and reserve units worldwide. The maternity attire will include the working uniform Type III, service khaki for E-7 and above and the service uniform for E-6 and below.

Robert Carroll, the head of Navy Uniform Matters, said pregnant sailors will be accepted into the program on a first-come, first-served basis, according to a Navy news release from Dec. 15.

“Uniforms will be provided to participants fully hemmed and with all required sewn-on accoutrements attached,” it stated.

Uniforms will also be shipped at no cost. If the pilot program succeeds, the number of eligible sailors will be increased.

Eligible sailors must be approved for the program by their commands and meet five criteria, including being pregnant when they apply, having 12 months of service remaining at the time of their request and not planning to receive a maternity clothing allowance during their pregnancy.

Sailors accepted into the pilot program will be measured for uniforms by their local Navy Exchange uniform section, which in turn will contact them regarding their uniform issue.

Also, those sailors must return their maternity uniforms when their pregnancy is over. Feedback from individuals on the program process and wear testing will also be required.

The Navy announced the program about six months after unveiling a prototype for an adjustable maternity flight suit. A similar uniform was announced by the Marine Corps in April.

Sad to say it but here it is.

You who are the top brass in our armed forces like General Milley are not ready to fight China or Russia. Now or ever.
End of story. Resign now.
When you begin to get your butts kicked you'll start tossing around nukes likes it's candy. Bad plan.

Man I hate to say the above but it's true.

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Originally posted by Loswsmith:

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Originally posted by radioman:
Dumb Question... I know what an Airman is, but what are Guardians ??

Too lazy to google it I guess.

Space Force I believe.

Seriously, like 'Guardians of the Galaxy'...

I don’t think they could fight West Virginia or South Dakota.

WTF. I'm sure our enemies will keep in mind each individual pronouns as they send bombs and bullets to kill our troops.

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by radioman:
Dumb Question... I know what an Airman is, but what are Guardians ??

Too lazy to google it I guess.

The new politically correct term for National GuardsMEN

GASP, can’t say MEN anymore

I'm assuming you're joking?

The Guardians is in reference to the space force.

Just look at the Navy, with carrier battle groups as our primary projection of force around the world.

How many ships and subs have run aground or collided with something else in the last couple years? A lot more than you might remember. How about the Captain that took his COVID issues public, violated chain of command, and told the entire world that his Carrier was not mission capable? How about the light carrier in dock that had a fire set by a sailor involved in a love triangle? The fire got out of control and the ship has been scrapped.

This points to lack of training, lack of competence, and lack of effective command.

I’m finishing a career in USAF SOF now. It’s definitely different than when I joined, but still plenty of killers find their way here. The GO corps is disappointing, and I do not think we have the decisiveness or will to win MCO. But those on the line will act with honor and courage. I believe that will remain the case regardless of the political predilections of our political-military senior management.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by radioman:
Dumb Question... I know what an Airman is, but what are Guardians ??

Too lazy to google it I guess.

The new politically correct term for National GuardsMEN

GASP, can’t say MEN anymore

I'm assuming you're joking?

The Guardians is in reference to the space force.

I could have sworn I read that the Guardians was the new term for Guardsmen. Guess I was wrong as yes you are correct that it refers to Space Force members.

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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:
I’m finishing a career in USAF SOF now. It’s definitely different than when I joined, but still plenty of killers find their way here. The GO corps is disappointing, and I do not think we have the decisiveness or will to win MCO. But those on the line will act with honor and courage. I believe that will remain the case regardless of the political predilections of our political-military senior management.

Thanks for adding that perspective. It's tough to hear and watch what the U.S. military is adopting and becoming, so reading some first hand real time assessment of the situation gives me some hope.

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by radioman:
Dumb Question... I know what an Airman is, but what are Guardians ??

Too lazy to google it I guess.

The new politically correct term for National GuardsMEN

GASP, can’t say MEN anymore

No, that is the term for members of Space Force.

It comes from Space Command's (the old USAF Space component) motto, that went back decades, "Guardians of the high frontier."

I served in the Air Force from 1990-2014 (I was in Basic Training during the first Gulf War), and spent my entire career in Space Ops.


I just left civil service (I am in- between jobs hopefully), and I started to see that nonsense pop up. I will NEVER use them, and I agree it's just another stupid 'woke-ism.'

I saw the article online yesterday and about threw up. It is affecting the army also

I have two years left on my enlistment with the Army reserves. I just turned 50 a few days ago and vowed that I would/wanted to finish out my last couple of years in a combat arms unit.

The VA National Guard recruiter has that pro noun crap in her email. I contacted the TN Army National Guard because they have a kick butt Armored Cav unit but HE did not have it in his.

I will tell you this:
It is definitely affecting recruiting and retention. I have stated this in another post, but I met two young men who were in their late 20's who said they are done. Both of these guys have 6+ years in and are Infantry/Cav Scout. That is one example.

I know I am old, grumpy and stubborn and want my old Army back but the soldiers I am meeting are half my age and are fed up and leaving because of this. ((This includes men and women.))


The other half works for the VA Hospital and they are required to go to three 90mins inclusive/diversity sessions.
She also showed me a page and a half list of phrases and terms they cannot use
For Example:::-> Felon, Inmate, something about workers not having PPE, poor person, etc..


No wonder our VA hospitals suck...

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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:
I’m finishing a career in USAF SOF now. It’s definitely different than when I joined, but still plenty of killers find their way here. The GO corps is disappointing, and I do not think we have the decisiveness or will to win MCO. But those on the line will act with honor and courage. I believe that will remain the case regardless of the political predilections of our political-military senior management.

I stay in close contact with a number of Special Warfare community folks and I agree there are still a lot of lethal warriors in the USAF who believe this woke business is pure nonsense. For God's sake, we are attempting to normalize significant mental illness in our most lethal warfighting institutions. Most Airmen and Guardians are young and will do what they have to do to get by, but talk to them in private and most are pretty disgusted.

Robin Olds, Curtis LeMay, Chappie James, and the rest are rolling over in their graves.

^^^^^^^as is my father Hayes…..

The depths to which Obama/Biden have plundered the military officer corps is only now becoming apparent. It's full of "social justice warriors" now rather than real warriors.

I wish I hadn't read this.
Sometimes no knowing the God awful shit going down is just better.
I am sick in my stomach now.

It makes me wonder on the millions if not billions spent on trying to put women into JSOC, 2 have passed Ranger school, haven’t heard any in AF Soc, 1 made SWCC boats, none have passed Buds and nothing in Marine SOC. Wonder what the cost ratio for success is?

Taiwan and Ukraine are far away, and, frankly not that important to the defense of the US itself. If shit does kick off in one or both, we choose to get involved, and get are ass kicked, maybe a lesson will be learned (sorta like Vietnam.)

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Taiwan and Ukraine are far away, and, frankly not that important to the defense of the US itself. If shit does kick off in one or both, we choose to get involved, and get are ass kicked, maybe a lesson will be learned (sorta like Vietnam.)

Neither is a war worth fighting. But in order to prevent China and Russia from invading their neighbors, the US has to present an image of strength with the implicit (yet unstated) message that such acts will not be tolerated lightly. Trump presented that image. Biden does not.

We simply cannot get involved in a shooting war with a nuclear power. Ever. Not unless they directly attack the US and there is no choice.

Here is the scenario that our "leaders" might get us into:

Send a carrier battle group near Taiwan to "deter" the Chinese. They believe carriers are essentially invulnerable after never losing one since the battle of Midway (other than the light carrier burned down in dock by the sailor in the love triangle). Yes they are protected by destroyers and attack subs, yes they have all kinds of high tech defenses.

China demands we recall the carrier. We refuse. China sinks the carrier with hypersonic missiles that get past our defenses. Casualties are in the 6000 range, far exceeding the losses at Pearl Harbor.

Now what? Declare war and invade China? Launch nukes? Nope. The remainder of the battle group will have to slink back to a friendly port and admit humiliating defeat, for all the world to see. This is the kind of thing Biden will get us into, just look how he screwed up in Afghanistan.