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World's skinniest skyscraper

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April 08, 2022, 11:57 AM
Aglifter
World's skinniest skyscraper
NYC has been dying for decades. There has been some resurgence around the innermost outlying areas, but NYC is going to transition from the financial center of the world, to a luxury city.

Charleston SC was always a luxury town, but was a major trading port at one time.

NYC’s transition will be a bit rougher, as living standards will have to improve, to survive as a luxury place.
April 08, 2022, 12:03 PM
Mikus36
Taking the stairs ?


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April 08, 2022, 12:05 PM
jhe888
That building, like many tall and skinny buildings, has movable damping weights in it at various places to prevent it from swaying too much. A building can, apparently, take a lot more swaying that the people in it will be comfortable with.

Architects try to minimize the weights (which are huge), because they take up valuable rentable space. But at some amount of swaying, people are bothered by it too much.




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April 08, 2022, 12:11 PM
Lefty Sig
Just build some shorter thin buildings on either side and make it look like a giant middle finger.
April 08, 2022, 12:22 PM
NavyGuy
quote:
Originally posted by Keystoner:
quote:
Originally posted by NavyGuy:
That structure goes against all logic. How the hell does it stand up? The shear stress at the base must be astronomical.

Do you think it's defying the laws of physics and the principles of structural engineering design?


I'm sure the design was engineered to death before the a single bolt was placed. It just looks like it would tip over if everyone in it got to one side and danced the Twist. A spectacular view from the high floors, but I'd be worried whenever a big thunder storm was predicted.



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April 08, 2022, 12:35 PM
darthfuster
On the way down in a cloud of grinding, burning debris I’d probably have to admit the ill wisdom of being in that building.



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April 08, 2022, 02:49 PM
Expert308
It looks like they got it halfway built and realized they didn't have enough material to finish it, so they decided to just make the upper floors skinnier.
April 08, 2022, 02:55 PM
flesheatingvirus
Interesting. I’d love to see the structural design specs on that.


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April 08, 2022, 03:24 PM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
Interesting. I’d love to see the structural design specs on that.
They probably designed it to withstand a 100-year wind. What happens when a 110-year wind comes?

flashguy




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April 08, 2022, 03:44 PM
Flash-LB
quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
quote:
Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
Interesting. I’d love to see the structural design specs on that.
They probably designed it to withstand a 100-year wind. What happens when a 110-year wind comes?

flashguy


In the Electronic Engineering World, if we designed something to withstand something like perhaps heat or overvoltage or something else, we did it with a safety factor of 2.

In other words, we'd design for a 100 mph wind with a safety factor of 2, therefore a 200 mph wind.

I have no idea what the construction world does though.
April 08, 2022, 03:45 PM
sigcrazy7
quote:
Originally posted by NavyGuy:
quote:
Originally posted by Keystoner:
quote:
Originally posted by NavyGuy:
That structure goes against all logic. How the hell does it stand up? The shear stress at the base must be astronomical.

Do you think it's defying the laws of physics and the principles of structural engineering design?


I'm sure the design was engineered to death before the a single bolt was placed. It just looks like it would tip over if everyone in it got to one side and danced the Twist. A spectacular view from the high floors, but I'd be worried whenever a big thunder storm was predicted.


You’d think so, but there’s a building in San Francisco that could have used a little more engineering. A modern Tower of Pizza



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April 08, 2022, 03:48 PM
Flash-LB
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
You’d think so, but there’s a building in San Francisco that could have used a little more engineering. A modern Tower of Pizza


Yeah, but you've got to remember that it's San Francisco, where "feels" are more important than facts.

https://www.cnn.com/style/arti...text=San%20Francisco's%20swanky%20Millennium%20Tower,engineer%20tasked%20with%20fixing%20it.

San Francisco's 'leaning' skyscraper tilted at a rate of up to 3 inches last year
April 08, 2022, 03:55 PM
Pipe Smoker
^^^^^^^^
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April 08, 2022, 04:06 PM
Windwolf
My aunt worked in the old John Hancock building in Boston while they were building the new skyscraper next to it. Building flexed so much they could not keep the windows from falling out.It too was a new untested shape. She had pieces of the nearly half inch thick glass she took off the ledge outside her office. I believe in Terra firma, the less firma the more Terra!
April 08, 2022, 04:55 PM
Pipe Smoker
quote:
Originally posted by Windwolf:
My aunt worked in the old John Hancock building in Boston <snip>

The John Hancock building in Chicago had the falling panes. They weighed a LOT!



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April 08, 2022, 05:01 PM
armedprof
quote:
Originally posted by Flash-LB:
quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
quote:
Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
Interesting. I’d love to see the structural design specs on that.
They probably designed it to withstand a 100-year wind. What happens when a 110-year wind comes?

flashguy


In the Electronic Engineering World, if we designed something to withstand something like perhaps heat or overvoltage or something else, we did it with a safety factor of 2.

In other words, we'd design for a 100 mph wind with a safety factor of 2, therefore a 200 mph wind.

I have no idea what the construction world does though.


A couple decades ago, I designed and installed Scaffolding. we used a safety factor of four. A scaffold that was rated at 10lbs per square foot could hold 40 without risk of collapse.





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April 08, 2022, 05:27 PM
r0gue
quote:
Originally posted by pedropcola:


The NYC the residents of that tower experience is very different than the one we would. S-Class Merc into the private garage, front row concert seats, the finest of the finest restaurants. Hell, most of them probably one spend a few weeks a year there anyway. They have 8 other homes.