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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
National Review Jack Crowe The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) came out in defense of the National Rifle Association (NRA) Friday, accusing governor Andrew Cuomo of violating the first amendment by targeting the group’s access to basic financial services. ACLU legal director David Cole sided firmly with the NRA in its ongoing legal battle against the Cuomo administration, which has conducted a sustained campaign to deprive the second amendment advocacy group of access to insurance and banking services. “In the ACLU’s view, targeting a nonprofit advocacy group and seeking to deny it financial services because it promotes a lawful activity (the use of guns) violates the First Amendment,” Cole wrote. “Because we believe the governor’s actions, as alleged, threaten the First Amendment rights of all advocacy organizations, the ACLU on Friday filed a friend-of-the-court brief supporting the NRA’s right to have its day in court.” The NRA sued the Cuomo administration in May, alleging the state financial regulatory agency engaged in a “blacklisting campaign” against banks and insurance companies contracted with the NRA, infringing upon the group’s constitutional right to “speak freely about gun-related issues and defend the Second Amendment.” The suit was filed after insurance companies Lockton and Chubb were fined $7 million and $1.3 million respectively for insuring the NRA’s Carry Guard program, which reimburses licensed gun owners for legal expenses incurred after justifiably firing their weapon. NRA officials claim that they have been unable to replace the sanctioned insurance providers, who revoked their services following the fines, due to a fear among their competitors that they will be similarly targeted by the state’s regulator apparatus. After stipulating that the “ACLU does not oppose reasonable restrictions on guns,” Cole argues that the court should allow the NRA’s suit against the Cuomo administration to proceed into the discovery phase, despite the state’s motion to dismiss. Cuomo, who routinely invokes his administration’s opposition to the NRA, celebrated the group’s potential demise in a mailer sent to voters this week. “If the NRA goes bankrupt, I will remember them in my thoughts and prayers,” the mailer read. Link Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | ||
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 "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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What? The ACLU stuck up for the NRA? Surely para's comet is on the way! Thanks for the link Mr.J! | |||
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Legalize the Constitution |
My first thought too, erj _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
What does that say about Cuomo? Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
He's a GDC????  | |||
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Wait, what? |
That he is a criminal leftist bent on circumventing Constitutionality for starters, but we could go on for pages regarding his list of transgressions. One has to wonder how the ACLU involvement began with this... “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt" "The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind." -Bomber Harris | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
He has accomplished something no ordinary God Damned Commie had been able to do! Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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ERJ exactly right. I'm at a loss, lol. SIG556 Classic P220 Carry SAS Gen 2 SAO SP2022 9mm German Triple Serial P938 SAS P365 FDE Psalm 118:24 "This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it" | |||
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This smells fishy. Could this be some super secret spy mission for the ACLU to get into the inner working of the NRA. I never thought I would be the tin foil hat type. | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Could have knocked me over with a feather. I don't think I've been this astonished by anything I've seen in a long, long time. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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I'm skeptical...no really, there's got to be a ulterior motive. | |||
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safe & sound |
Of course there is. At some point somebody who believes in two way streets will gain some power. Then what was good for the goose will be good for the gander. The ACLU may be full of leftist, but at least they are smart enough to see the writing on the wall. | |||
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The aclu is positioning themselves as the "reasonable and moderating" source. They insisted on reasonable gun control in their statement. What part of "shall not be infringed" do they not understand? Easy, they don't care. This economic assault is obvious and unlawful, it's a slow pitch softball. Once they win, they will be seen as the good guys and should be listened to. They will then insist on "common sense gun control", they are the good guys after all. | |||
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| No good deed goes unpunished  |
The ACLU sometimes will defend an individual or organization that they are philosophically opposed to because of the larger underlying legal issue. They defended Rush Limbaugh's right to privacy when the gov't was seeking his medical records. Much more recently they defended Milo Yiannopoulos' right to free speech. There are multiple cases where they have defended the rights of individual Christians for a variety of reason. That said, I have no use for the ACLU and think they've done far more harm to our country than good. | |||
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| Nullus Anxietas |
They had to do that as a sop to their base. The leftists are going to be going utterly ballistic as it is. Their motives and their "reasonable gun control" statement aside: Why cannot some of you just appreciate a win? Why is it some of you have to look for the dark side of everything? Some of you are every bit as bad as the left: "Under Trump the economy's booming and unemployment is at an XX year low!" "Yeah, but ..." <shuffles deck, picks card> "... he's orange!"  "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Now in Florida |
It's a win-win for Cuomo. He had to know he was on shaky legal ground, but not matter what happens, he gets to be the guy in the 2020 race who can say he stood up to the NRA with real action. The 2020 Democratic primary is going to be all about who can establish their progressive/socialist bon fides the best. The candidates are going to be tripping over themselves to prove how woke they are. Expect an avalanche of virtue signaling, far-left policy proposals, bizarre photo ops and more! Should be fun to watch. | |||
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Fortified with Sleestak |
There was a case many years ago concerning a church wishing to baptize in a river that was accessed through a public park and being denied the use of the property. IIRC the ACLU represented both the church and the town in that case. I have the heart of a lion.......and a lifetime ban from the Toronto Zoo.- Unknown | |||
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| bigger government = smaller citizen  |
So it's that time of day. Stopped clock and all. “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken | |||
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