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It is disquieting to see the accusations accepted as fact without much in the way of corroboration. I’m sure many of the accusations are true, well founded, but eventually, and who can say that eventually hasn’t already happened, accusations will be made or greatly exaggerated out of the blue, to settle some other score, or by mentally deranged victims, or someone who wishes they were a victim.

We have seen such problems with acquaintence rape, not always resolved truthfully, accurately.

It is very troubling.

In a purely commercial context, and especially where there is a contract, I am less troubled, because I do have faith that the contract and the possibility of expensive and dangerous litigation will keep the private parties in check.

In politics, I agree that the unfounded allegation can do great damage.

It is also a problem for at-will employees, who don't have the protection a contract provides someone like Lauer.

One can only hope, I guess.

Look at the scenario. Female files complaint with HR. Now what?

If they accept it as true and fire the subject, he is ruined, occupationally, domestically. How does he show that the complaint is not true, if it isn’t true?

If they reject it as true, maybe she sues. He’s ruined.

How often does what was consensual sex become sexual harassment in the passage of time, influenced by events long afterwards?

NPR fires another exec, two for price of one special today.

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Witch hunt, perhaps, but that would make more sense if it were all republicans being accused. We're seeing just the complete opposite here. Interesting indeed.

I've been thinking about why there are relatively few abusers on the right. It is certainly arguable that leftists naturally lack the normal maturity and self control that children develop as we become adults. Their childish sense of entitlement and zero consequence (for them) mindset is ossified in place.

But I think two other things happened. First, leftist men saw how Bill Clinton got away with raping and assaulting women and thought that as leftists that they too could abuse the fairer sex. Second, many potential abusers concluded that if they joined ranks with the left, they would have license to abuse women at will.

So ultimately, The left can thank Bill Clinton for making them the party of serial rapists and abusers.

I think what you say is true. Another piece of it is that leftists think that this is their world-- sex, drugs & rock 'n roll. They think that this is how they are different from men on the right, who live in a buttoned-down, straight-laced, sexually uptight world. (They think.) To leftist men, the women in their world are all sexually adventurous babes, ready and willing.

And they treat them that way.

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Watch your six.

But not hers...

Depends on the six.

Six Sells.

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How often does what was consensual sex become sexual harassment in the passage of time, influenced by events long afterwards?

On college campuses, the passage of time can often be just the next day. A guy and girl go to his or her room, both drunk, and roll around on the bed for a couple hours.

Next day, she goes to the dean and says she was sexually assaulted. Typically, nobody was present except the two of them, and they were both blitzed. So, literally nobody knows what really happened, but for sure the guy is doomed.

There will be no rape kit, no legal depositions, no due process in any real sense, just a board of administrators, faculty and students who will listen to both of them and believe the female.

The celebrities who have been nailed are guilty as can be. They can afford the best lawyers, but they fold and admit what they've done. (You can imagine how bad the whole story would be, if it were ever known.)

But it is definitely starting to feel like Salem. A woman says, "He harassed/assaulted/raped me" and the accused guy is toast, right at that moment.

I seem to recall allegations some years back about Matt Lauer grabbing Michelle Obama's penis, but perhaps I have some of the details confused?

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Anyone thinking along the “innocent until proven guilty” lines with this event can rest assured that whatever he was fired for is 100% substantiated; if it weren’t, you can bet he wouldn’t have quietly slunk away.

I LOVE watching the continued implosion of the left- it’s been like watching a building demolition in extreme slo-mo since the election.

Yeah, these leftists generally don't have much personal honor or sense of decency (when their butts are on the line). I bet if lauer had ANY way to fight for his 'innocence,' he would have done so. The fact that he is apparently going without a fight convinces me that this isn't just some 'baseless accusation.'

Of course, we don't know all the facts, but this is the way it looks to me at this point. . .

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I seem to recall allegations some years back about Matt Lauer grabbing Michelle Obama's penis, but perhaps I have some of the details confused?

She grabbed him by the pussy. --I know, I know, it's so hard to keep all the stories straight....

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I seem to recall allegations some years back about Matt Lauer grabbing Michelle Obama's penis, but perhaps I have some of the details confused?

She grabbed him by the pussy. --I know, I know, it's so hard to keep all the stories straight....

Well...just to further drift and pile on:



Is Michelle a nazi?? Salute looks familiar...

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And now Garrison Keillor.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.04659e13e81c

Wow.

Prairie Home Companion indeed!

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And now Garrison Keillor.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.04659e13e81c

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And now Garrison Keillor.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.04659e13e81c

^^^That's hilarious!

Woody Allen? How in Hell has Woody escaped The Great Progressive Male Slaughter of 2017?

And Steven Colbert? If he had a dick, he'd be gone.

The clock is ticking on so many of these leftist pervs. Bill Maher? Jimmy Kimmel? It's a long list. This shit is going to be going on well into 2018. Maybe 2019.

NBC will be airing "Late Night with Pee Wee Herman" because their won't be a hetero male leftist celeb still standing.

FLASHBACK: Matt Lauer's Now Really Embarrassing Interview With Bill O'Reilly

"Today" show host Matt Lauer has always had that sanctimonious air that the hardcore liberals have in spades, that holier-than-thou, "I'm-right-and-you're-wrong" contempt for anyone who doesn't think exactly like him.

While he's a morning talk show host — one that sometimes dresses up as Dolly Parton or helps chefs cook Autumn pizzas "your teen will love" — Lauer has always played at being a "journalist." He isn't, of course, as he makes no effort to be unbiased, or if not unbiased, at least even-handed. He's a morning show entertainer, nothing more.
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Sorry, we couldn't help ourselves. Liz Lemon always cut to the point.

Anyway, with the sudden firing of Lauer over what NBC is calling very credible allegations that the $25 million man committed a bit of "inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace," we thought back to his pretentious grilling of Bill O'Reilly over his own allegations of sexual impropriety with women while host of a Fox News show.

"You were accused of sexual harassment," Lauer says to O'Reilly, the two sitting opposite each other in high chairs. "You said at the time you did absolutely nothing wrong. Do you stand by that?"

"I do," O'Reilly says in the September 19 interview.

"So did you provide Fox News any evidence, any information that you think could have changed their minds as to what you were guilty or not guilty of?" Lauer asks.

Then this absolutely wonderful exchange happens.

"You were probably the last guy in the world that they wanted to fire, because you were the guy that the ratings and the revenues were built on. You carried that network on your shoulders for a lot of years," Lauer said. "So doesn’t it seem safe to assume that the people at Fox News were given a piece of information, or given some evidence, that simply made it impossible for you to stay on at Fox News?"

Wow.

O’Reilly says no, calling that a "false assumption."

"There were a lot of other business things in play at that time and still today that 21st Century was involved with," O’Reilly says. "And it was a business decision that they made. But there isn’t any smoking gun."

"But you don’t let your No. 1 guy go unless you have information that you think makes him…" Lauer says.

"Sure you do," O'Reilly says. "That's not true. There are billions of dollars at stake in business deals, and they made a business decision that they could possibly prosper more without me."

"Why didn’t you sue those women if you say you did absolutely nothing wrong?" Lauer asks.

"Because you can't win those lawsuits. If you're a public figure, you cannot win them. And I could do that, but the collateral damage of these lawsuits, the press frenzy, every allegation is a conviction," O'Reilly says.

"You don't have this story, Lauer, correct," O’Reilly says. "The lawsuits involved many people, many people. I was named in a few of them. This was a hit job, a political and financial hit job."

"Was this a vast left-wing conspiracy?" Lauer says.

"Don't be sarcastic," O'Reilly responds.

Then there was this great question to O'Reilly that now surely applies to Lauer himself:

"But think about those five women and what they did," Lauer says. "They came forward and filed complaints against the biggest star at the network they worked at. Think of how intimidating that must have been, how nerve-wracking that must have been. Doesn't that tell you how strongly they felt about the way they were treated by you?"

Ouch.

Oh, and one last Lauer question: "Were there any self-inflicted wounds here, Bill?"

See the rest below.

Garrison Keillor fired by Minnesota Public Radio.

Boom! The hits just keep on coming...

Link

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Aaaartie....

"Boom! The hits just keep on coming..."

Some of them after the bell.

I think it took me that long to post it!

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Prairie Home Companion indeed!

Not any more!


https://www.mprnews.org/story/...ed-improper-behavior