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OK bigdeal, you can come wipe the juice off my monitor.

I honestly dont much care about the changes. A woman faces far more disadvantage in combat when considering the average build and muscle mass difference between the genders so I'm not sure how high ponytail lists when someone has a helmet on. It would be nice to have them not snatching all their hair out trying to roll it into a super tight bun. Nail polish and makeup, sure why not as long as its not stupid.

I don't walk around trying to get offended by things so I may just not be in the know, are dreadlocks racist now? Funny growing up in a predominately black and Hispanic area I heard them called...wait for it..... dreadlocks. Whatever.

As for soldiers taking advantage that's not going to randomly come about with this sadly, male and female both, I've met plenty of great soldiers. And plenty of bad ones, getting over any way they could.

binary recruits

If you are willing to serve and do your job well, I don’t give a damn what you look like or what you identify as.

^^^And that shows a complete ignorance of what makes the American military a cohesive, disciplined fighting force. Reminds me of the much-ridiculed recruiting slogan of the mid 70’s:

Who deceides how much makeup is to much?? And will that go both ways for males as well as females?? What about hair color ? Bleach blond /vivid pink/ floresent green/ vivid blue??? .............................. drill sgt.

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Originally posted by BMR:
^^^And that shows a complete ignorance of what makes the American military a cohesive, disciplined fighting force. Reminds me of the much-ridiculed recruiting slogan of the mid 70’s:

Organizations that don’t adapt will fall behind. Your argument is true for the past, but things change. Unfortunately, the military is one of the slowest organizations to accept change.

That's the thing though....does it NEED to change just so it's 'woke'?

Of the whole article, this is the part that gets me fired up....

“At the end of the day, our women are mothers, spouses and sisters,” Sanders said. “They definitely want to maintain their identity and this is one way to get after it.”

If they want to maintain their 'identity', maybe they should not be in the military. The military is a machine and they are a small cog in it. The individual must submit to the unit, not the other way around. Their identity is "Private" or "Sergeant" or "Captain". It's "tank driver" or "communication repair specialist". Their sex or whatever has little or nothing to do with their identity in the military.

I see the Sergeant Major of the Army didn't want to cater to men's identity with beards, so why kowtow to the females?

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Originally posted by BMR:
^^^And that shows a complete ignorance of what makes the American military a cohesive, disciplined fighting force. Reminds me of the much-ridiculed recruiting slogan of the mid 70’s:

And what was wrong with guaranteed MOS?

That’s exactly why I entered the Army in 1991 instead of the Air Force. Had done the ASVAB with the Air Force, was meeting with Air Force recruiter numerous times, found out that they could not guarantee a job, I did not want to end up a truck driver in the middle of nowhere. Talked to the Army recruiter, they guaranteed me the job I wanted in writing and I got it.

Dumbest fucking thing I’ve read on the internet today. You win flesheatingvirus. The military isn’t really competing with other organizations as you see it. They don’t need, want, or desire to “keep up” with society. Society is dead ass broke in many critical categories if you aren’t paying attention. The military needs people who can do their job, do your job, obey orders, and give out orders that will get people killed. There is a line of “free thinking” that isn’t beneficial in the military. You don’t want mindless drones. You also don’t want soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines questioning every order.

This doesn’t make for a better fighting Force regardless of what the corporate training says.

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And what was wrong with guaranteed MOS?

That’s exactly why I entered the Army in 1991 instead of the Air Force. Had done the ASVAB with the Air Force, was meeting with Air Force recruiter numerous times, found out that they could not guarantee a job, I did not want to end up a truck driver in the middle of nowhere. Talked to the Army recruiter, they guaranteed me the job I wanted in writing and I got it.

Absolutely nothing wrong with guaranteeing an MOS, which is what the "We don't make promises. We make guarantees." part of that poster refers to. I would expect a military service manned by volunteers to do so. But that was not the Army slogan nor part of it at the time - the bottom phrase in this example is what the slogan was and it stood alone on many recruiting posters. The 70's Army lived up to that slogan, with very relaxed standards, not to mention, a myriad of disciplinary problems.