Interesting. Mbinky raised the only worthwhile question about two pages back, and it's the one question Republicans in Congress have oh-so-frustratingly refused to answer not only this time by many times before: "What are you going to do with the information?"

If the story is true, then it appears those chicken-hearted ticket punchers are hoping that the information will come out "organically" (that is, from a reasonably reliable source that isn't running for office any time in the next six years) and that the scandal will do all of the hard work for them that they're too freakin' diffident to do.

OTOH, if the story is true, how in the hell could the media refuse to report it? That's just too lucrative a target for any self-centered mercenary to not want to tear in to and its too big a story for anyone to ignore and still retain some degree of credibility.

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Devin Nunes: "One-hundred percent, they [the FBI and DOJ] are putting all their chips on the Republicans losing the House and all these investigations will shut down,"

He gets it. And many of us have been saying the same thing. So why is congress refusing to act? Hold Rosenstein in contempt. Make the DOJ enforce it, or start firing people.

The simple answer is most likely the correct one: they don't give a shit.

If the house falls, the truth will never see the light of day. We cannot trust the DOJ to ferret out the lawbreakers as they themselves are complicit. The senate committee is useless. The house investigation is the only one that has any chance of shining light in all the dark corners and holding people accountable.

Speaking of Strzok's background, here's a link that says some things I've never heard about him. Whether true or the Great Internet Hoax, I have no way to confirm.

Purposely have not included any quotes from the article. If you have interest it's worth a quick scan at least: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/...y-to-iranian-regime/

Even if Mr Magoo, Rosenstein and all the other POSs were fired, we still need a new Speaker of the House before anyone will be prosecuted.

That asshole Ryan is a member of the swamp. He wont refer anyone to the DOJ for prosecution. Regards 18DAI

Political harassers need to be exposed for what they are.

American Spectator
R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr.

Now that FBI agent Peter Strzok has appeared before the Congress and told us nothing that we did not know, it is time for President Donald Trump to act. Strzok looked like a cocky crook testifying to Congress about a failed con job. His appearance was utterly astounding. He actually smirked at the assembled elected officials of government. He smirked from morning until late in the afternoon when the Congress finally adjourned, though admittedly by late in the afternoon the wind was pretty much out of his sails, and his smiling face most assuredly ached. He looked deflated, and if he was eager for anything it was for the exit and the arms of his FBI paramour Lisa Page.

His demeanor was not that of a stalwart FBI agent appearing before the Congress of the United States to inform the citizenry, but like that of John Gotti or one of the other hoods whom a better generation of FBI agents than Strzok’s once put behind bars.

At some point in the near future a reflective Congress might — in a bipartisan moment — investigate how the FBI became a tool of elitist interests in our nation’s capital. Then too the Congress could offer suggestions as to what can be done to repair the damage. For federal law enforcement to become so flagrantly political is genuinely alarming.

I think President Trump has subtly brought the left and the right in this country together, at least on one point. The time has come for the citizenry to see all the documents held by the government in the so-called Russian collusion scandal. Was there collusion? Who was involved? The President has it in his power to declassify the documents. Use your faithful weapon, Mr. President, your trusty black felt pen. Sign the declassifying order now.

Pressure is building from both ends of the spectrum. Last weekend the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal called for declassifying the documents. Strzok did tell his intrepid inquisitor, Congressman Jim Jordan, that over at the Justice Department one Bruce Ohr did serve as the quiet conveyor of opposition research from the Clinton front group Fusion GPS to the FBI. Oh yes, and Ohr’s wife worked for Fusion and, by the way, Ohr and perhaps a dozen others involved in this Camorra to discredit Trump go back years, many to their college days as young socialists at Cambridge and select American universities. That revelation means that as the Journal pointed out, “… Fusion, an outfit on the payroll of the Clinton campaign, had a messenger on the government payroll to deliver its anti-Trump documents to the FBI.” Confirming that, “the FBI relied on politically motivated sources as part of its probe, even as Mr. Strzok insists he showed no political bias….” Strzok is even more brazen than members of the Cosa Nostra.

Specifically the Journal called for the release of FISA applications. They will show how heavily the FBI relied on Christopher Steele’s dirty dossier. They will also show how candid the Justice Department and the FBI were in seeking the FISA subpoenas from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. The Journal also called for release of documents related to the Woods procedures, which will show how the FBI verified evidence it used to justify eavesdropping on the Trump campaign. There are also documents called 302s and 1023s, documents that would show how the FBI dealt with Steele, Fusion GPS, and other informants, for instance Dan Jones and my old friend Stef Halper.

I have my own set of questions about the Russian collusion investigation that might be answered if the President orders the above documents declassified. Working with my indefatigable chief investigator, George Neumayr, here are a few of the questions that we have prepared once President Trump has declassified the documents.

The President should declassify all communications between Strzok and John Brennan, President Barack Obama’s director of CIA. Their shared hatred for Trump lies at the root of the Obama administration’s decision to spy on the Trump campaign. Declassify the documents and let the questioning begin.

He should also declassify any documents that shed light on Brennan’s “working group at Langley.” When did the group begin its work? Who participated?

He should declassify any documents that shed light on the internal discussions or debates about whether or not to open up a probe of the Trump campaign: Did any FBI officials dissent from the decision? If so, who are the officials?

He should declassify any documents related to the Brennan-generated leak to then Senator Harry Reid. My guess is that Brennan has a lot of questions to answer as this week’s tweets suggest.

Strzok’s appearance before the Congress was very amusing. Now it is time to come up with answers to the question of Russian collusion or collusion by anyone else in the 2016 election. Mr. President, you can do it.

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if he was eager for anything it was for the exit and the arms of his FBI paramour Lisa Page.

This is obviously a mere tangent to Tyrell's piece, but one thing's been kinda nagging at the back of my head. If Page was as cooperative as she has been reported to be, then I kinda wonder how much of Strzok's somewhat bizarre behavior was driven by the stress of knowing (or at least being morally certain) that Page would sing. Uncertainty over what and how much she would say might well have driven the poor boy mildly nuts before he walked into the hearing room.

Other than the one article posted here has it been reported anywhere else about all this so called damning testimony given by Page?
If so I have not seen or heard anything of it. Sounds like wishful thinking and creative writing so far.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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if he was eager for anything it was for the exit and the arms of his FBI paramour Lisa Page.

This is obviously a mere tangent to Tyrell's piece, but one thing's been kinda nagging at the back of my head. If Page was as cooperative as she has been reported to be, then I kinda wonder how much of Strzok's somewhat bizarre behavior was driven by the stress of knowing (or at least being morally certain) that Page would sing. Uncertainty over what and how much she would say might well have driven the poor boy mildly nuts before he walked into the hearing room.

Well, the last reported text between her and Strzok was her telling him, "don't ever contact me again," or something very similar. It may very well have been that she already figured out her buttocks were on the grill, and her only hope was to sell out the lot of them. Having her testify in private, after he in public, gives her the chance to directly address his public statements without him knowing whether she corroborates him, or sells him out.

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has it been reported anywhere else about all this so called damning testimony given by Page?

I haven't seen anything that reports Lisa Page said that.

However, the story has been around for some time.

Rep Gohmert brought it up in the Strzok testimony.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...ressman_2592256.html

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Tex.) said virtually all emails of former State Secretary Hillary Clinton were sent to a “foreign hostile power.”

He made the claim at a House committee hearing on July 12, where FBI agent Peter Strzok testified about his role in the counterintelligence probe of alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.

At the most heated point of the hearing, Gohmert asked Strzok about his meeting with people from the office of then-Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) Charles McCullough.

Gohmert said that investigator Frank Rucker and attorney Janette McMillan, both from McCullough’s team, briefed Strzok and three other FBI officials about a forensic analysis of the Clinton emails by the ICIG. The analysis uncovered an anomaly in Clinton’s emails showing that virtually every email she sent was forwarded to an unauthorized foreign entity.

“Every single one except four—over 30,000—were going to an address that was not on the distribution list,” he said. “It was a compartmentalized bit of information that was sending it to an unauthorized source.”

Gohmert said that Strzok ignored the briefing and never followed up on the lead.

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This is one I would put in the "Important IF true" category.

Getting nervous on whether we will see much more action before the November elections.

We haven't heard pip from John Huber.

Michael Horowitz has been quiet. He is supposed to be working a report on the Carter Page FISA warrant.

Haven't heard anything about indicting McCabe for lying to the FBI.

Remember all those FBI agents that were just waiting to come testify ?

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Originally posted by sdy:
Getting nervous on whether we will see much more action before the November elections.

We haven't heard pip from John Huber.

Michael Horowitz has been quiet. He is supposed to be working a report on the Carter Page FISA warrant.

Haven't heard anything about indicting McCabe for lying to the FBI.

Remember all those FBI agents that were just waiting to come testify ?

I would think that it would be pretty well understood that they don’t do any communicating unless and until indictments are unsealed, reports are released, etc. No progress reports.

While no news is not necessarily good news, it is exactly that.... no news. If there are progress reports, it means someone is cheating.

Aggravating, isn’t it?

I don't believe we will hear anything from the DOJ anymore, and that includes the IG. They have closed the book on the whold deal. Nothing to see here. McCabe will never be charged and in a few years he will petition for his job back, get it (since he was never charged) and get his retirement. Rosenstein will withold documents, thumb his nose at congress, and they will do nothing. Eventually the dems will regain control and the whole cycle will repeat, except much worse next time.

The house is the only hope, but only if they have the balls to start putting the screws to Rosenstein. Hold him in contempt, tell the AG to enforce it, and when they don't (they will not) fire them after the election. We should keep the senate to be able to confirm new bodies.

There is no super secret investigation. The FBI and the DOJ are FULL of leftist sympathizers. If there was even a HINT of a real investigation it would have been leaked to the media so they could get ahead of it and discredit it.

Was this posted already? New texts from Oct 16th 2016 between Lisa Page and McCabe implicating the obama whitehouse.

Is this after Lisa Page testified before Congress?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFWtnx9U3zI

The lefts desperation signifies the depth of their concerns not for Donald Trump but for their own malfeasance.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
Who among us hasn’t said or written intemperate, foolish, maybe even crazy sounding things in the quest to impress someone of the female persuasion?

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Could you illuminate, please? What was your point?

The non-profit Coolidge Reagan Foundation appears to be a rather new group. Would be interesting to know who funds them.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-...gn-dnc-over-dossier/

The non-profit Coolidge Reagan Foundation on Thursday filed a Federal Election Complaint against Hillary Clinton’s campaign, the Democratic National Committee, their law firm Perkins Coie, and Christopher Steele, the ex-British spy that authored the “pee dossier,” for violating campaign finance laws.
The non-profit charged that those parties hid payments made to and received by Fusion GPS, the firm that hired Steele to produce the dossier, in violation of finance laws.

Democrats have accused the Trump administration of colluding with foreigners, when in reality it was the Democrats who colluded with foreigners, the non-profit charged.

“For over a year, Democratic officials have accused the Trump Administration of collaborating with foreign interlopers to influence the outcome of the 2016 Presidential election. In reality, it was the Clinton-backed Democratic machine that conspired with foreigners in violation of both federal campaign finance law and basic decency to manipulate the election,” it said in a complaint.

“The Clinton campaign weaponized American intelligence and law enforcement communities — led by Democratic appointees of President Barack Obama —through false, malicious, wholly manufactured lies about the Republican nominee, now President, Donald J. Trump,” it said.

The Coolidge Reagan Foundation is described in the complaint as a not-for-profit charitable organization whose mission is to “defend, protect, and advance liberty, and particularly the principles of free speech enshrined in the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.”

The 22-page complaint walks through in detail how Clinton and DNC officials colluded with Steele and anonymous former and current Russian officials to produce a dossier aimed at influencing the 2016 elections, and violated election laws while doing so.

The complaint describes how the Clinton campaign hired Perkins Coie lawyer Marc Elias for the 2016 presidential election cycle. Elias then hired Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research on Trump. The Clinton campaign and the DNC then funneled over $1 million through Perkins Coie to Fusion GPS. Clinton’s campaign manager Robby Mook personally approved the payment to Perkins Coie, the complaint said.

The non-profit argued that that since Fusion GPS’s work was to further the Clinton campaign and the DNC’s political goals, rather than providing legal advice or assisting with any litigation, it was not protected by attorney-client, work-product, or any other privileges.

However, the Clinton campaign and the DNC hid their payments to Fusion GPS in campaign finance filings. The Clinton campaign reported all of its payments to Perkins Coie from January 2016 through December 2017 as being for the purpose of ”LEGAL SERVICES,” but did not mention Fusion GPS.

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The Coolidge Reagan Foundation lists seven counts of FEC violations against the Clinton campaign, the DNC, Marc Elias, Perkins Coie, and Steele.

They include: False Specification of Expenditure Purpose; False Identification of Expenditure Recipient; False Identification of Expenditures’ Purpose and Recipient; Solicitation of Donations (or Contributions) from Foreign Nationals; Substantially Assisting Solicitation of Donations from Foreign Nationals; Donation or Expenditure by a Foreign National; and Foreign National Participation in Political Committees’ Decisionmaking Processes Concerning Expenditures.

Gotta like the name!

Remember when Strzok testified that there was a very sensitive source that they didn't want to risk ?

NYT article today

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0...=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.

The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.

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several human sources had confirmed Mr. Putin’s own role.

That included one particularly valuable source, who was considered so sensitive that Mr. Brennan had declined to refer to it in any way in the Presidential Daily Brief during the final months of the Obama administration, as the Russia investigation intensified.

Instead, to keep the information from being shared widely, Mr. Brennan sent reports from the source to Mr. Obama and a small group of top national security aides in a separate, white envelope to assure its security.

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sounds similar. If true, somebody is leaking pretty sensitive material.

Is this why FBI/DoJ is fighting so hard to not reveal the reason for starting the counterintelligence investigation on 31 July 2016 ?

The main problem that these spy folks have created is that two issues have become intertwined.

1. The Russians did cyberwarfare during the election

2. The claim that Donald Trump worked with the Russians to perform the cyberwarfare

#1 is probably true
#2 is Mueller's wet dream.

If the Russians were trying to cause so much havoc, why would the FBI/CIA believe anything they said ? Even their secret sources ?

And remember this is a spy game. "hey, let's put in the NYT that we have a source close to Putin. Drive the Russkies nuts"

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Originally posted by sdy:
Mr. Brennan sent reports from the source to Mr. Obama

Are they tying to protect their "source" or the fact president obama was directly briefed on the information?

All this goes straight to obama and it's the reason the left is freaking out.