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Info Guru |
It's hard to even imagine that for 20+ years this unhinged lunatic has had a badge, a gun, a top secret clearance and the authority to ruin lives. Kinda scary and makes you wonder how many other lunatics have this kind of power. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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https://judiciary.house.gov/pr...ched-with-lisa-page/ Washington, D.C. – House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) today issued a statement on an agreement reached with Lisa Page, legal counsel to former FBI Director Andrew McCabe, to have her appear for a transcribed interview on Friday, July 13, 2018 at 1:30 p.m., which will continue on Monday, July 16, 2018 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx of course now Lisa Page has the advantage of watching the Strzok testimony | |||
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wishing we were congress |
Mollie Hemingway had a good observation. Strzok and Page have been exchanging tens of thousands of messages for over 2 years. Using govt and private phones. Each are married. Quite an opportunity for foreign agents to build a blackmail case against the #2 in the FBI counterintelligence division and the attorney for the deputy director of the FBI. One of the things that gets addressed in periodic TS/SCI clearance reviews is whether a person has anything going on that could expose them to blackmail. | |||
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Conveniently located directly above the center of the Earth |
Blistering Gowdy statement at start of Strzok testimony 7/12 5:51 video covers a LOT of points defining 'bias' https://www.youtube.com/watch?...lDI&feature=youtu.be **************~~~~~~~~~~ "I've been on this rock too long to bother with these liars any more." ~SIGforum advisor~ "When the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change, then change will come."~~sigmonkey | |||
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Plowing straight ahead come what may |
It also made me think about his love interest Lisa Page...what kind of crazy is she awash in to get involved with such arrogant, smirking asshole...you know "birds of a feather" and all... Probably just a carbon copy with different body parts. ******************************************************** "we've gotta roll with the punches, learn to play all of our hunches Making the best of what ever comes our way Forget that blind ambition and learn to trust your intuition Plowing straight ahead come what may And theres a cowboy in the jungle" Jimmy Buffet | |||
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Glorious SPAM! |
Speaking of clearances, I know the media reported that he had lost his clearance but yesterday I read that he claims he still holds it. Which is it? | |||
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Info Guru |
He was given a limited clearance in order to prep for and give testimony. It ended when he left the stand. http://dailycaller.com/2018/07...-security-clearance/ “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Yesterday's joint hearing in front of the House Judiciary and Oversight Committees was the first public hearing Congress held with the official who launched the Russia probe two years ago. Federalist Mollie Hemingway JULY 13, 2018 An embattled FBI official who led investigations into both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump testified in a cantankerous open hearing on the Hill yesterday. Peter Strzok, formerly the second in command of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division, lost his position after texts he exchanged on government systems with his also-married lover and colleague Lisa Page revealed extreme bias against President Trump and his voters. Yesterday’s joint hearing in front of the House Judiciary and Oversight Committees was the first public hearing Congress held with the official who launched the Russia probe two years ago. Here are a few key takeaways from that hearing. 1. This Is What DOJ Obstruction Looks Like The country is two years into the FBI’s probe of whether Donald Trump colluded with Russia to steal an election. Not a single charge has been brought by the FBI or by the Office of Special Counsel alleging collusion or treason or anything close to the charges that supposedly necessitated this investigation. Congress began asking some questions of the FBI and Department of Justice about how it was conducting the investigation. Through the oversight process, Americans learned that the infamous “dossier” that laid out a case of collusion was secretly bought and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. This dossier was used to secure wiretaps against Trump associates (other surveillance methods, including human informants, were also used). The dossier was fed to both the FBI and State Department. Top intelligence officials were leaking about the Russia investigation to CNN and other media outlets. A top DOJ official’s wife worked for the firm that Hillary Clinton hired to run the “Russia” operation. That firm fed their opposition research to the FBI through him. The Senate Judiciary and House Intelligence Committees, along with the Senate Homeland Security committee, House Oversight, and House Government Reform committees, have worked hard to uncover these details and in the face of unprecedented obstruction. Requests for documents are met with stonewalling, delays, redactions, leak campaigns, and outright refusals. Threats of subpoenas are routinely made to force even minor compliance. Despite the length of yesterday’s hearing, congressional overseers were able to elicit almost no substantive answers to the questions they asked. Strzok claimed he was not answering questions because the Department of Justice told him not to answer questions. No matter the question, Strzok refused to answer any question about his role in the Russia probe, with almost no exceptions. The hearing was a public revelation of the stonewalling and obstruction the DOJ has enforced against congressional oversight. 2. Strzok Somehow Came Off Even Worse Than He Did In His Texts Despite his significant role in the Russia and Clinton investigations, the only picture Americans had formed of Strzok was based on his text messages. He spoke of his loathing of President Trump, Trump’s voters, and congressional oversight. He talked of stopping Trump’s election, of insurance policies to deal with his candidacy, and fantasies of impeachment. The texts were between him and his also married colleague, another top-ranking official in the Department of Justice. The hearing demonstrated the texts were at best an accurate reflection of the man who wrote them. If anything, the texts were understated. Strzok chose to present himself to the world as a smug, arrogant, and peevish man. He was defensive and condescending. His answers were almost mind-blowingly implausible. It wasn’t just that he lacked good judgment or even-handedness. It’s that he didn’t seem to have a grip on reality. He kept saying he wasn’t biased, when his bias is indisputable. He told investigators that he would like to answer a question but that his attorneys weren’t letting him. If they later told him he could answer, he’d say he didn’t remember. He implausibly said that his affair didn’t put him at risk of compromise, in contrast to his agency’s policy. 3. Democrats Run Interference Almost immediately, Democrats on the House and Government Reform Committee attempted to shut down the hearing. When that failed, they resorted to near-constant parliamentary inquiries and objections. At one point they actually cheered and applauded Strzok, despite his ethical failings and poor judgment, which have threatened the entire Russia investigation. The man is under internal investigation for his behavior. Yet one Democrat said he’d like to offer Strzok a Purple Heart, a military decoration awarded to those wounded or killed while serving in the U.S. military. As silly as this behavior may seem, it indicated how Democrats hope to handle all oversight of the FBI and DOJ’s handling of the Russia probe. The message went out that every hearing will be a clown-show, even by the typical grandstanding attendant to congressional hearings. Democrats on oversight committees have fought transparency of the Russia investigation, portraying it as obstruction of a legitimate probe. All signs indicate that opposition to oversight will continue. 4. DOJ Clearly Hiding Its Relationship With Democratic-Funded Smear Group The FBI and DOJ frequently instructed Strzok not to answer substantive questions from Republicans. One line of inquiry pursued by Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, was regarding communication between the FBI and Fusion GPS, the group that concocted the “Russia” dossier and messaging plan on behalf of Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee. Strzok generally declined to answer questions. But Strzok did admit that Bruce Ohr, husband of Fusion GPS operative Nellie Ohr, funneled documents to the FBI related to the Russia case. He refused to say what those documents were. Yesterday, Sen. Chuck Grassley asked DOJ to declassify the dozen reports summarizing Ohr’s 12 information-sharing meetings with the FBI. The FBI used Fusion GPS-hired Christopher Steele until the end of October, when he was terminated for lying about his leaks to the media. But Fusion and Steele were able to continue funnelling information to the FBI using colleague Nellie Ohr and her husband Bruce Ohr, a top DOJ official who worked closely with acting Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. When the Russia story first broke, Americans didn’t realize that the dossier was a secret Clinton/DNC operation, or that the unverified opposition research was sent to various Obama officials in multiple agencies. Americans didn’t know that a top DOJ official was married to an employee of the group that created the dossier, or that he was used to get information into the government. 5. The Mystery Of Why The Investigation Started Strzok said he didn’t see the dossier until mid-September. His electronic communication that started the probe didn’t include official intelligence. Given the politically explosive nature of the investigation, the FBI and DOJ have failed to explain what they were thinking in starting a probe of the Trump campaign. The entire investigation has major problems from start to finish, whether it’s the use of a dossier that Steele created and Bruce Ohr sent to the FBI, or the fact that Strzok ended up having to be removed from the investigation for his obvious and extreme bias. Strzok said Mueller never asked him about his texts, and didn’t seek to find out more from him about what his “insurance policy” or “impeachment” rhetoric meant. Again, the hearing was less than substantive because of the ongoing obstruction and stonewalling campaign engaged in by DOJ. That was itself instructive. Link Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
This gets back to the house cleaning needed at DOJ. They aren't going to prosecute their own. They are still trying to protect them. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Conservative Behind Enemy Lines |
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
A day in the life of some loathsome Democrats American Spectator Ben Stein Wow. What a day on Capitol Hill. Rogue FBI agent Peter Strzok, married, long-time FBI powerhouse, having long-term affair with other FBI agent named Miss Lisa Page, had sent texts over his official FBI phone calling Trump supporters “pieces of s–t,” had said he could “smell” them at a Walmart in southern Virginia. Had promised Lisa Page that the FBI would prevent Trump from being elected just as he was starting the fake Trump-Russia collusion probe. Had said that even when Trump was elected, the FBI would cook up something to keep Trump from being President. This was a megalomaniac madman — and today, as he was examined by a House committee, he showed it again in spades. Did he apologize for what he had done? Far from it. With the rabid leftists on the committee literally cheering him on, he spat on the Republican committee members, insisted he had done nothing wrong — and said he would not show the committee the hundreds of anti-Trump texts he had on his personal cell phones. With the leftists actually applauding him the sassier he got, he refused to take any responsibility for taking a big fat bowel movement on the reputation of the Federal Bureau of Investigation by showing how much of a political instrument it has become. (Actually, it was that when Mark Felt, another charmer, used his position at the FBI to attack Nixon — but that’s another story.) Mr. Strzok (whom a barely literate woman Representative kept calling “Mr. STROH-ZAK”) showed that the highest law enforcement body in the land had become — at least in part — a Praetorian Guard for the left in the nation’s capital, plotting, and carrying out acts of sabotage against conservatives. The prime example is the fake Trump-Russia collusion investigation. Eighteen months and not one American indicted for anything like “collusion” and, of course, there is no such crime as “collusion.” It’s an incredible historical tragedy: the body charged with protecting the Constitution, the FBI, has been betrayed by one of its own and had dirt smeared all over its once pristine reputation. But that’s just part one. Yes, Mr. Strzok, just as an opinion, is the most arrogant man I have ever seen on a news show, except for the hosts. But his shield bearers in the Committee were far worse. When Henry Gohmert, an elderly GOP Congressman from Texas, asked why we should believe a man who lied to his wife about his adultery for years — maybe decades — a Democrat on the committee shouted out, “You didn’t take your medicine this morning,” an obvious slur on elderly people. Imagine if the GOP had done anything like that. Time after time, just like Joe McCarthy, the Democrats interfered with the running of the hearings by calling for “point of order.” I am old enough so that the eerie replay of dark Committee hearings was not lost on me. I guess the leftists are so utterly without shame now that they don’t even care that they are emulating a man they supposedly hated, Joe McCarthy. (By the way, McCarthy was like Emily Post in terms of politesse compared with many leftist members of the Committee today.) The leftists on the Committee were just rabid dogs, over and over trying to make it seem as if Mr. Trump had been convicted of some sort of treason, when, of course, no one has laid a glove on him in that regard. Endlessly, the leftists on the Committee sought to make it seem that the Committee was tilting at trifles instead of going after real trouble, like Russia. But Mr. Strzok is the most real of real trouble. An actual political assassin in the highest priesthood of law enforcement meant to protect law and order and instead becoming a highwayman. My friend Trey Gowdy was the star of the day. At one point when Mr. Strzok said he did “not appreciate” some words of Mr. Gowdy, Mr. Gowdy said angrily, “I don’t give a damn what you don’t appreciate.” This man is a master prosecutor. But my head is just spinning about the hearings today and how every black member on the Committee attacked Trump. I’m also spinning about the endless suggestion that it’s wrong for the President to meet a questionable foreign dictator like Putin or Kim Jong Un. It’s always better to talk than to fight. FDR held hands with the cruelest killer of the first half of the 20th century Joseph Stalin. Eisenhower went to the summit to meet Khrushchev. RN shook the bloody hands of Mao Tse-tung and from that came a genuine generation of peace. So what do we have now on the Democratic side of the aisle — ignorance, rage, insult, obstruction. Thank God we have Mr. Trump. I don’t think he’s going to be pushed around by the likes of the Democratic Party today, the worst day for that party since it fought and killed the anti-lynching law proposals of FDR. Just a disgrace. My friend, Judah Friedman, put it brilliantly: how would Mr. Nadler feel if the FBI were doing that number on him? How would any American feel knowing that the FBI had been turned into a nest for monsters to work out personal grudges? How must the brave, incorruptible men, and women of the FBI who do their jobs with a clean badge and a clean conscience feel about a Peter Strzok and the party that defends him? Link Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
^^^ Good article by Ben Stein. Man, I didn't get to listen to any of the hearings as I was at the airport about to get on a flight, but the sky club had Fox news on and I could see it (no sound). Jesus, this guy Strzok has a face you just want to shove into a french fryer. Arrogant little pissant. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Plowing straight ahead come what may |
Alan, you have no idea...when you see AND hear this dick...you realize how much the FBI and the Dems have screwed themselves in public opinion... Between Strzok and Comey with their arrogance and inflated egos as the poster boys for the FBI...it will be years (if ever) before any faith in this organization is restored...I wonder how Ms. Page is doing today? (another fine example). ******************************************************** "we've gotta roll with the punches, learn to play all of our hunches Making the best of what ever comes our way Forget that blind ambition and learn to trust your intuition Plowing straight ahead come what may And theres a cowboy in the jungle" Jimmy Buffet | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Trying to listen to that douche nozzle was like participating in a rodeo, because I managed to stick with it for about six seconds, and that is the truth. I've heard everything I'd ever want to hear from this jackass. | |||
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Dies Irae |
Yeah, that rapeface smirk deserves to bob for hush puppies. | |||
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wishing we were congress |
https://nypost.com/2018/07/13/...s-than-peter-strzok/ Republican lawmakers who attended a closed-door hearing with ex-FBI lawyer Lisa Page touted her willingness to cooperate on Friday — in contrast with her ex-lover Peter Strzok “I found Lisa Page to be more credible than Peter Strzok. I didn’t agree with her characterization of every text message and every piece of evidence, but we did not see the smug attitude from Lisa Page that we saw from Peter Strzok,” said Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) as he left the hearing. Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, agreed, calling Page a “credible witness.” “There is new information,” he told reporters. “And that information is credible.” None of the lawmakers, members of the House Oversight and House Judiciary committees, would speak about the content of their conversations with Page, though they generally believed a transcript of the interview should be publicly released. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx It was Lisa Page's testimony to the IG that helped to nail McCabe xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.526c85ac69df several GOP congressmen characterized Page as “cooperative,” “forthcoming” and “transparent” during her interview with the House Judiciary and Oversight and Government Reform committees. The closed-door session lasted nearly five hours and was expected to resume Monday afternoon. They also said Page addressed questions that went unanswered during the public testimony Thursday of FBI agent Peter Strzok, who cited orders from the bureau not to disclose certain details about its work on the Clinton and Trump probes. Page’s answers “heightened my concern that the processes at the FBI were contrived to fit the desired outcomes of people who were biased in favor of Hillary Clinton and against Donald Trump,” Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) said, emerging from Friday’s meeting. Page also defended herself as unbiased, GOP lawmakers said — a characterization with which they did not agree. But they had mostly kind words after speaking with her for several hours: Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), who had been among Page’s harshest critics heading into the session, told reporters that “in ways, she’s been falsely accused about not being willing to cooperate.” after speaking with her, some said they doubted it would be necessary to subject her to a public hearing, provided the transcript of her closed-door interview would be released eventually. “She’s been willing to help in the spirit of transparency. . . . We’ve certainly learned additional things today,” Meadows said. “Certainly this has been a long time coming, but I would think that the American people would be happy with the way that the transcribed interviews today went.” | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
This is why you never conspire with girls. When trouble looms, they don’t want to get in it. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Is Strzok delusional? Did he think arrogance would get him anywhere? Dude, Comey and McCabe aren't going to cover your butt anymore. Why not at least pretend to be sorry for your actions?? | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Because he knows his career is over and he is truly screwed professionally, so he has two choices: (1) be contrite and respectful, or (2) go out in a blaze of anger and resentment. He chose 2. After all, his girl lost to a man he said was an idiot. He will remain in FBI Human Reaources, likely working on the sexual harassment in the workplace policy until he is convicted (0.0000000000001% probability), fired (0.0000000000002% probability), quits (0.0000000000003% probability), or retires with full federal benefits for the rest of his life (99.0000000000004% probability). Once gone I suspect he will have a hard time finding work. I hope his wife divorces his sorry ass, and gets a huge portion of their assets, plus a hefty sum in alimony and child support. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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