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Another thread about a funeral reminded me of something . We received a letter from the Funeral Home /Cemetery that handled my Mom's funeral last November . It seems FEMA will reimburse you up to 9000 dollars for funeral related expenses for deaths caused by Covid . I called the number provided and made the application over the phone . Faxed in the supporting documentation . Now we wait . Government wheels turn slowly .
 
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I'm not sure I understand the rationale for that policy. Why up to $9k for Covid when the normal death benefit is around $200?
 
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I'm not sure I understand the rationale for that policy. Why up to $9k for Covid when the normal death benefit is around $200?


Got to get them covid death numbers up.

Seriously, how many families do you think will insist that covid be put on the death certificate when you can get up to 9 grand? And from what I understand, covid doesn't even have to be the primary cause of death in order to get the benefit, just as long as covid is listed somewhere on the death certificate.


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Take a look at this.

Under "Who is Eligible?" there are several bullet points.

One states "The applicant must be a U.S. citizen, non-citizen national, or qualified alien who incurred funeral expenses after January 20, 2020."

The very next states "There is no requirement for the deceased person to have been a U.S. citizen, non-citizen national, or qualified alien."

It's all so perfectly clear now. Roll Eyes
 
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Funerals during covid were pretty limited.

I just checked the FAQ section for the reimbursement website. I did not see anything asking for income requirements.

As I take it someone who bought a fancy coffin with all the upgrades can get more money than someone who chose cremation with no service?

If you can afford the fancy coffin do you really need the money reimbursed?


 
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Not surprising...

Fraud Alert: We have received reports of scammers reaching out to people offering to register them for funeral assistance. FEMA has not sent any such notifications and we do not contact people before they register for assistance.

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Take a look at this.

Under "Who is Eligible?" there are several bullet points.

One states "The applicant must be a U.S. citizen, non-citizen national, or qualified alien who incurred funeral expenses after January 20, 2020."

The very next states "There is no requirement for the deceased person to have been a U.S. citizen, non-citizen national, or qualified alien."

It's all so perfectly clear now. Roll Eyes


Another reason for those involved in the funeral industry as well as next of kin to support Democratic Party candidates! They'll send you taxpayer money IF you'll kick back a bit to their campaign as well as cast your ballot for them. Roll Eyes


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Good grief <smh>



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Another reason for those involved in the funeral industry as well as next of kin to support Democratic Party candidates! They'll send you taxpayer money IF you'll kick back a bit to their campaign as well as cast your ballot for them. Roll Eyes


Not to mention all the six-figure salaried FEMA types it will take to administer the program. This sounds like nothing more than a more sophisticated, legal version of distributing 'walking around money', a practice popularized by politicians in the hood long ago which continues to this day.
 
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I'm not sure I understand the rationale for that policy. Why up to $9k for Covid when the normal death benefit is around $200?


Got to get them covid death numbers up.

Seriously, how many families do you think will insist that covid be put on the death certificate when you can get up to 9 grand? And from what I understand, covid doesn't even have to be the primary cause of death in order to get the benefit, just as long as covid is listed somewhere on the death certificate.
The flaw in your hypothesis is for people with life insurance policies with exceptions for pandemics. Several insurers saw the writing on the wall during SARS-COV-1 and MERS. In your hypothetical case, they'd be getting $9k funeral and giving up what is likely a larger life insurance policy.

Friend of a friend died of a heart attack spring '20 and never had a positive COVID test while alive or dead. Paramedics put cause of death as COVID (seemingly to get their cut of the gov't dole) and widow is having to sue to get cause of death fixed so she can get life insurance.



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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
I'm not sure I understand the rationale for that policy. Why up to $9k for Covid when the normal death benefit is around $200?


Got to get them covid death numbers up.

Seriously, how many families do you think will insist that covid be put on the death certificate when you can get up to 9 grand? And from what I understand, covid doesn't even have to be the primary cause of death in order to get the benefit, just as long as covid is listed somewhere on the death certificate.
The flaw in your hypothesis is for people with life insurance policies with exceptions for pandemics. Several insurers saw the writing on the wall during SARS-COV-1 and MERS. In your hypothetical case, they'd be getting $9k funeral and giving up what is likely a larger life insurance policy.

Friend of a friend died of a heart attack spring '20 and never had a positive COVID test while alive or dead. Paramedics put cause of death as COVID (seemingly to get their cut of the gov't dole) and widow is having to sue to get cause of death fixed so she can get life insurance.
Paramedics don't list the official cause of death on Death Certificates . Something fishy with that story .
 
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Paramedics don't list the official cause of death on Death Certificates . Something fishy with that story .


No, they don't have the authority.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages...th-certificates.html

Who Signs It?
According to the National Association of Medical Examiners about 20 percent of all death certificates are signed by a coroner or a medical examiner. Since autopsy rates have plummeted in hospitals, death investigators now perform the majority of the nation's autopsies, which remain a vital barometer for revealing causes that might otherwise have been missed. In 2007, the latest data available from the CDC, 201,000 autopsies were performed, accounting for just 8 percent of all deaths.

Others who can sign a death certificate include a primary physician, an attending physician, a non-attending physician, a medical examiner, a nurse practitioner, a forensic pathologist or a coroner, but it varies according to state law. In Texas, for example, a justice of the peace can sign. Typically, deaths have to be recorded with local health departments within 72 hours of the death, and to the state within five to seven days.
 
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In the state of Louisiana the coroner does not need to have ANY type of medical liscense or training. That is a elected position and can hold that position as long as a actual doctor does not run for the office. They are required to have a proper investigation done by whatever qualified person or persons needed and then issue the death certificate. ..................... and the covid death reimbursements is a ploy to sway the unwashed over to their side of the voter polls. ................... drill sgt.
 
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Originally posted by selogic:
Paramedics don't list the official cause of death on Death Certificates . Something fishy with that story .


No, they don't have the authority.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages...th-certificates.html

Who Signs It?
According to the National Association of Medical Examiners about 20 percent of all death certificates are signed by a coroner or a medical examiner. Since autopsy rates have plummeted in hospitals, death investigators now perform the majority of the nation's autopsies, which remain a vital barometer for revealing causes that might otherwise have been missed. In 2007, the latest data available from the CDC, 201,000 autopsies were performed, accounting for just 8 percent of all deaths.

Others who can sign a death certificate include a primary physician, an attending physician, a non-attending physician, a medical examiner, a nurse practitioner, a forensic pathologist or a coroner, but it varies according to state law. In Texas, for example, a justice of the peace can sign. Typically, deaths have to be recorded with local health departments within 72 hours of the death, and to the state within five to seven days.
239 of 254 Texas counties have justice of the peace with zero medical backgrounds issuing death certificates. During the early days of COVID, the only medical people the JoP may have spoken with was the paramedic since hospitals were turning away everyone they could to conserve PPE and regular doctors offices were closed. Early on, the PPE shortage was so bad that the Houston area actually built sanitizing tents and conexes for used PPE so first responders and medical people could reuse their PPE.



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Posts: 23303 | Location: Northern Suburbs of Houston | Registered: November 14, 2005Report This Post
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In the state of Louisiana the coroner does not need to have ANY type of medical liscense or training. That is a elected position and can hold that position as long as a actual doctor does not run for the office. They are required to have a proper investigation done by whatever qualified person or persons needed and then issue the death certificate. ..................... and the covid death reimbursements is a ploy to sway the unwashed over to their side of the voter polls. ................... drill sgt.
You mean it's ANOTHER ploy to sway people ... Just like the extra unemployment benefits , Student loan forgivness idea , minimum wage increase , and on and on ... There's no end to it .
However , their efforts are wasted on me .
 
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