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New report of a plane crashing into mall in Philadelphia...

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January 31, 2025, 06:08 PM
fischtown7
New report of a plane crashing into mall in Philadelphia...
The video looks like it came down like a missile.
January 31, 2025, 06:11 PM
vthoky
quote:
Originally posted by fischtown7:
The video looks like it came down like a missile.


fox29.com has the story.

https://www.fox29.com/video/1586274
https://www.fox29.com/news/sma...philadelphia-sources

quote:

Viewer-provided Ring Doorbell video shared with FOX 29 shows what appears to be a plane in the distance falling out of the sky, followed by a large explosion with huge plumes of smoke.

FOX 29's Steve Keeley is at the scene and reports stepping over debris and observing several active fires within minutes of the crash.





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January 31, 2025, 06:12 PM
Rightwire
Listening to this on the scanner as well... not only a multiple structure fire event but PD is having a hell of a time getting the scene under control given how wide spread it appears to be.




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January 31, 2025, 06:13 PM
fischtown7
Somebody on Fox said mid air collision but that is speculation. Might explain scattered debris.
January 31, 2025, 06:17 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by fischtown7:
The video looks like it came down like a missile.


That is an accurate description. Wow.


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January 31, 2025, 06:19 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by fischtown7:
The video looks like it came down like a missile.

Call me crazy, but from the fox29 link...that's no "small plane".


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January 31, 2025, 06:22 PM
fischtown7
I am really hoping that is not a midair collision, once in 16 years but twice in a week, that makes the hair on my neck go up.

Good coverage on Broadcastify
January 31, 2025, 06:25 PM
fischtown7
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
quote:
Originally posted by fischtown7:
The video looks like it came down like a missile.

Call me crazy, but from the fox29 link...that's no "small plane".


Showing it was a Lear 55
January 31, 2025, 06:32 PM
FenderBender
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/s.../1885485251582980157




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January 31, 2025, 06:46 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:

Call me crazy, but from the fox29 link...that's no "small plane".


Agreed. I don't consider a Lear 55 (if that is true) a "small" plane.


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January 31, 2025, 07:21 PM
Hound Dog
I believe in this situation, they use the term 'small plane' to clarify that it was not something the size of an airliner.

A regional jetliner like the CRJ that crashed in DC two days ago is a LOT bigger than a Lear 55.


737s and 757s are huge compared to the Lear 55, and that's not even including the heavies like the 767 and 787 airliners.



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January 31, 2025, 07:21 PM
1s1k
The video I saw showed a very sharp angle coming down. I’ve personally never seen a crash like that.
January 31, 2025, 07:22 PM
Fed161
The local news coverage here in Philadelphia is reporting that there are multiple casualties on the ground. An eyewitness to the crash who lives close to the crash site was interviewed by the local ABC affiliate. He says he saw multiple bodies on the ground. Several houses are on fire and there are numerous cars burning.

The network news made a good point that the destination for the flight is over 1,000 miles away. And the jet crashed just after takeoff. So the jet would have had a full load of fuel. That accounts for the reason why the fire is still burning. Tough to get a fire like that under control quickly.
January 31, 2025, 07:25 PM
Hound Dog
quote:
Originally posted by 1s1k:
The video I saw showed a very sharp angle coming down. I’ve personally never seen a crash like that.


They are showing quite a few different doorbell and dashcam videos. It seemed to come down while on fire, and it seems as though it suffered some kind of catastrophic structural failure. This doesn't seem to be some simple loss of power with the crew trying to glide back to the airport scenario.

The plane was only in the air less than a minute before it crashed.

Of course, that's my uninformed opinion based on the limited data available.



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January 31, 2025, 07:26 PM
rat2306
Heard the aircraft had just taken off thirty seconds prior to crash, on one of the Fox 29 screens. Echoing Fed161, it crashed on/near a very busy roadway in rush hour, and at least one structure fire was involved. Four crew and a pediatric patient with an escort on-board the craft according to the medevac's company.
January 31, 2025, 07:38 PM
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January 31, 2025, 07:45 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by Hound Dog:
I believe in this situation, they use the term 'small plane' to clarify that it was not something the size of an airliner.

A regional jetliner like the CRJ that crashed in DC two days ago is a LOT bigger than a Lear 55.


737s and 757s are huge compared to the Lear 55, and that's not even including the heavies like the 767 and 787 airliners.


Well of course. A small passenger jet though would be more accurate, or at least less misleading.


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January 31, 2025, 07:58 PM
Rightwire
Sounds like it was under full power based on that last video.




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January 31, 2025, 08:19 PM
ridewv
Could icing cause that?


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January 31, 2025, 08:25 PM
FrankMoses
It was likely 50 degrees in Philly at 6:30.