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Originally posted by downtownv:

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Originally posted by pessimist:

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Originally posted by downtownv:
The sheeple will bitch and that will be the end of it.

Sadly, it won't even get that far. No real bitching or complaining that I'm aware of.

I dunno know I am in deep red Ocean County...

Hey, I'm your neighbor in Monmouth County We're red as well but a few shades lighter, unfortunately. You guys gave Clinton a righteous beat-down in the last election

Handing them out in Jersey to illegals. Three years back You couldn't believe the hoops my 92 year old Mother had to jump through to renew her NJ D/L. They wanted 6 points of ID. Having been born and worked there, as well as owned several properties, paid a LOT of taxes, for 92 years, not enough.

But we will hand them out like candy to illegals!

This silliness is why I left 40+ years ago.

Why doesn't everyone go to the dmv and claim they are illegal and get another drivers license then? How are they going to check?
Hell, get 5 or 6. Register your new alias's to vote and beat them at their own game.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
Why doesn't everyone go to the dmv and claim they are illegal and get another drivers license then? How are they going to check?
Hell, get 5 or 6. Register your new alias's to vote and beat them at their own game.

When this bill passes, I should find out how the process works and try getting a license just to be a ball-breaker. I have no doubt I'd get arrested in the process. Maybe I should do it with a hidden camera and put it on YouTube

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Originally posted by chellim1:

Once you have a drivers license, it's easy to register to vote.

And THAT has been the real goal from the beginning with all these initiatives. You think the Democrats give a shit if Pedro from Mexico has a driver's license? Nope, they just want him to vote (for them of course).

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Originally posted by pessimist:

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Originally posted by downtownv:

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Originally posted by pessimist:

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Originally posted by downtownv:
The sheeple will bitch and that will be the end of it.

Sadly, it won't even get that far. No real bitching or complaining that I'm aware of.

I dunno know I am in deep red Ocean County...

Hey, I'm your neighbor in Monmouth County We're red as well but a few shades lighter, unfortunately. You guys gave Clinton a righteous beat-down in the last election

Monmouth County is where I hail from.

All my family now lives in Ocean County. Yes, it is indeed Trump country around there. It's a sin what Murphy and his acolytes are thrusting upon the good people in that State.

As I recall, about a dozen Arizona MVD workers got busted 10 years ago for selling AZDL to illegals.

Link to map.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/i...s-to-immigrants.aspx

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by chellim1:

Once you have a drivers license, it's easy to register to vote.

And THAT has been the real goal from the beginning with all these initiatives. You think the Democrats give a shit if Pedro from Mexico has a driver's license? Nope, they just want him to vote (for them of course).

I think something like that happened here during the last vote. Ending with democraPs controlling the state gubbermint effective January.

As many of us know, the first thing the want to do is confiscate all guns.

One of the assholes even threatened to use the national guard to do it!

If I could get Mrs. Elk to agree we would sell our property in this state and move back to my home state of Idaho. Preferably the Northern part.

The New Jersey State Assembly and State Senate passed legislation (S-3229 and A-4743) that gives driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

The legislation now goes to Governor Phil Murphy for consideration.

Please tell him to VETO IT!
Please call (609-292-6000) and leave an online message (https://www.nj.gov/governor/contact/all/) for Governor Murphy

NJ Governor Murphy will sign the bill. He is a far left liberal, not a moderate who will listen to reason. Go ahead and call to show your displeasure, not because you can affect the outcome.

It gets worse. Not only will illegals get drivers licenses, but they will pay LESS for them than US citizens do. There will be two licenses in NJ, a standard license and a REAL ID license. Illegals get standard, for $18, and citizens have to get REAL ID for $29. They aren't satisfied with just giving them drivers licenses, they have to insult US citizens by charging them more than illegals.

What documents or proof do the illegals have to show to get one?

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Originally posted by RAMIUS:
In NJ (probably like many states), when you get a DL, you can register to vote. Wonder if this is some kinda back door registration.

When I renewed my license, the question about registering to vote was on the electronic form I filled out. Because I was already registered, I hit the "NO" button. It would not accept my answer, so I hit it again. It still would not accept my answer. I finally hit the "YES" button and was allowed to finish filling out the form.

They want illegals to have every right and privilege citizens have.

We gripe about things like this, but what are we doing to stop it?

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
What documents or proof do the illegals have to show to get one?

"No hablay-o engrish, yo."

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Originally posted by Monk:
We gripe about things like this, but what are we doing to stop it?

Nothing really, this is all government’s idea...New Jersey aka The Stockholm Syndrome State

However, people just lost their shit since NJ got rid of the religious exemption for vaccines.

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Originally posted by Fed161:
NJ Governor Murphy will sign the bill. He is a far left liberal, not a moderate who will listen to reason...

https://abcnews.go.com/Politic...00/story?id=67806071

New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy restores voting rights for 80,000 on probation or parole.
NJ Gov. Murphy signed two bills on Wednesday morning to create a "clean slate."

By Meg Cunningham
December 18, 2019, 2:38 PM

New Jersey Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy signed a bill Wednesday morning to restore voting rights to more than 80,000 residents who are on probation or parole.

"I am proud to sign one of the most progressive expungement laws in the nation, which will allow more New Jerseyans the opportunity to fully engage in our society. I am also proud to enact legislation that will restore voting rights to over 80,000 residents on probation or parole, allowing them to fully participate in our democracy," Murphy said in a press release.

The state will now create a "clean slate" expungement for residents who have not committed an offense in 10 years and who have not been convicted of the "most serious" crimes. The bill also requires that low-level marijuana convictions be sealed at the disposition of the case, so those convictions cannot be used in the future.

Murphy joined 16 other states which have restored voting rights to similar groups. Currently, Maine and Vermont are the only states where felons never lose the right to vote.

The New Jersey law will take effect in 90 days.

"Fixing our broken criminal justice system remains one of the most challenging issues plaguing our nation. Formerly incarcerated individuals continue to face overwhelming obstacles as they rejoin their communities," said presidential candidate and New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker in the release. "It’s often difficult to obtain jobs and housing and many have lost their right to vote. These measures signed today by Governor Murphy will help restore fairness to the criminal justice system and remove some of the fundamental barriers to re-entry. I’m grateful to the State Legislators who sponsored these measures and to Governor Murphy for helping make New Jersey a nationwide leader in bold criminal justice reform."

Restoring voting rights for disenfranchised groups has become a Democratic focus since the 2018 midterms. In Florida, voters widely approved adding a constitutional amendment to restore the voting rights of felons, save those who had committed a murder or felony sexual offense, who must still petition with the governor's office.

Those changes have since been a point of contention: Republicans passed a law that required former felons to pay all fines, restitution and court costs before technically completing their sentences, which effectively disqualified hundreds of thousands of the 1.4 million who originally regained their right to participate at the ballot box. The state's Supreme Court is currently considering a challenge to that law, brought by civil rights and voting rights groups.

Last week, new Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear in Kentucky restored the voting rights of over 140,000 nonviolent felons in an executive order, his first act as governor.

An array of states permanently disenfranchise felons from voting, depending on the crimes they commit, but with Kentucky's new change, Iowa is the only remaining state which does not allow anyone convicted of a felony to vote.

"There is no more fundamental aspect in citizenship than casting a vote, and yet Kentucky has the third-highest disenfranchisement rate in the country," Beshear said at the signing. "Nearly 1 in 10 Kentuckians is disenfranchised. Nearly 1 in 4 African Americans are disenfranchised."

Iowa's governor is calling for a constitutional amendment to match Kentucky's.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
What documents or proof do the illegals have to show to get one?

“ a) as a condition for obtaining [the] a standard identification
19 card, two documents providing satisfactory proof that the applicant
20 is a New Jersey resident and proof of the applicant’s social security
21 number. If the applicant does not have a social security number, the
22 applicant shall indicate, in a manner prescribed by the commission,
23 that the applicant is not eligible to receive a social security number;”
https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/...ls/S3500/3229_I2.PDF

Illegals can only get a “standard” license. The “Real ID” license requires more documentation.
“ in
29 accordance with the “REAL ID Act of 2005,” Pub.L.109-13, any
30 acts amendatory or supplementary thereto, and any federal
31 regulations adopted thereunder; and proof that the applicant's
32 presence in the United States is authorized under federal law.”
https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/...ls/S3500/3229_I2.PDF

No, there’s nothing about checking that a social security number is valid and issued to the person.