I looking for recommendations for a 150 foot 5/8 diameter garden hose, to be used in a fixed position to feed another system. In other words I won't be dragging it around. It won't be buried, just run along a fence line beneath bedding and plantings etc.

I've been using a variety of used or new cheap vinyl hoses, but those don't splice well enough to be reliable when sections, splices, and connectors corrode and leak.

So, I want to buy a 150 foot 5/8 garden hose, higher quality is better, with normal ALL BRASS male and female fixed ends, and it needs to be thicker versus lighter for more durability, and made of the right materials.

So should I go with:

1. Rubber
2. Polyurethane
3. Or something else ?

If it makes a difference, I'd rather pay more and not worry about it for the next 10 years, than pay less and have to screw with it all the time.

What do you guys recommend for this application ?

Why not just make a run out of PVC pipe?

Rubber...

I read that Rubber is more durable over time. Is that true for UV exposure as well, and would I do better with a 3/4 inch hose instead of a 5/8 inch diameter feeder, to minimize water friction and pressure loss ?

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Originally posted by SpinZone:
Why not just make a run out of PVC pipe?

This, and it's dirt cheap.

don't want to mess with joints, bends, 3/4 male and female threaded hose fittings into pvc, etc. It needs to feed a high quality reel with an existing feeder.

I can personally vouch for these, I would figure out a way to keep it out of the sunlight though.


he most durable, reliable garden hose on the market.

Drinking water safe materials, including durable polyurethane and lead-free brass fittings.
Lightweight & kink resistant.
Full 5/8-inch flow fittings.
Made in the USA.
10-YEAR No-Leak, No-Fail Warranty.
Patented design: Patent

https://www.eleyhosereels.com/...?variant=12333422852

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Originally posted by wrightd:
I read that Rubber is more durable over time. Is that true for UV exposure as well, and would I do better with a 3/4 inch hose instead of a 5/8 inch diameter feeder, to minimize water friction and pressure loss ?

1. Anything will degrade in direct sunlight. Softer materials are generally more susceptible, unless specifically formulated. PVC one of the better materials for UV exposure. There are PVC garden hoses, but this goes for CPVC too.
2. 3/4 will have less pressure drop than 5/8. Do you have enough flow for that to matter? At 200+ feet and a couple fittings, it won't take much flow to start to notice head loss, but without knowing your criteria, can't say if it matters.

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Originally posted by rizzle:
I can personally vouch for these, I would figure out a way to keep it out of the sunlight though.


he most durable, reliable garden hose on the market.

Drinking water safe materials, including durable polyurethane and lead-free brass fittings.
Lightweight & kink resistant.
Full 5/8-inch flow fittings.
Made in the USA.
10-YEAR No-Leak, No-Fail Warranty.
Patented design: Patent

https://www.eleyhosereels.com/...?variant=12333422852

Tell us you hit the powerball without telling us you won.....

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Originally posted by snidera:
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Tell us you hit the powerball without telling us you won.....

I'm not sure what this statement means.

In this area we have two rather large copper mines. There are several RV parks around here and they use garden hoses here for hookup. I asked around on what hoses they use.
The garden hoses I used around my property would blow the ends off due to the 100 plus degree dry heat, the fittings get incredibly hot even with water in them.

If your comment means they are too expensive, then, so be it.

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Originally posted by SpinZone:
Why not just make a run out of PVC pipe?

I tried that for a garden drip irrigation system, I got one year/season out of it before the UV ate it up.

It did make watering much more convenient when it was intact. I have considered replacing it with iron pipe, but $$$.

Rubber hose it what the OP wants. Stop by your local fire house and ask them who makes their hoses for them. Most communities have an old guy in a one-room workshop that does nothing but build hoses all day, he's your man.

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Originally posted by rizzle:
If your comment means they are too expensive, then, so be it.

Maybe snidely doesn't understand how many feet are in 150 feet.

rizzles suggestion looks good, for something durable and lasting, JMO a contractor grade garden hose is what you want, something similar to this

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Fl...-FA58150CN/329023384

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Originally posted by rizzle:

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Originally posted by snidera:
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Tell us you hit the powerball without telling us you won.....

I'm not sure what this statement means.

In this area we have two rather large copper mines. There are several RV parks around here and they use garden hoses here for hookup. I asked around on what hoses they use.
The garden hoses I used around my property would blow the ends off due to the 100 plus degree dry heat, the fittings get incredibly hot even with water in them.

If your comment means they are too expensive, then, so be it.

It was a smartass comment on the cost of Eley, no offense intended.
I have an Eley hose reel & if I ever hit the powerball, all my hose-related items will come from them. They're good, but they're outrageously expensive.

You can replace a decent contractor grade hose 3x when you smash it, hit it with the mower, or a dog bites through it for the 3$/ft Eley wants.
The hose is probably nothing overly special. Fittings might be proprietary & they do have good fittings. I have some of their QD & they are great. I also have standard brass & SS QD fittings that cost 1/3 the price or less and have more than 1/3 the performance.

My belief is that it won't work. I did similar to irrigate horse pasture on a 5 acre plot. After 100", there simply was no pressure.

I'd run 1" or better 1.25 inch schedule 40 down the fence line, and then tap off with a hose of 50' or less, and I'd use 3/4 farm hose.

There is no replacement for displacement isn't just a comment about engines.

Most water pipe PVC needs to be covered or painted to protect it from UV. Pile mulch on it. 150’ is too long for good flow in 5/8”.

The gray electrical conduit PVC is UV resistant, but not rated for pressure.

I don’t know if there are actual physical differences between them besides color and UV resistance.

I’m thinking something like this will be suitable when cost and longevity is taken into account. It’s in no way a rubber hose though, more like a permanent solution. It’s what you find in greenhouses, nurseries, orchards, etc. https://www.dripdepot.com/poly...h-od-length-100-feet

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Most water pipe PVC needs to be covered or painted to protect it from UV. Pile mulch on it. 150’ is too long for good flow in 5/8”.

The gray electrical conduit PVC is UV resistant, but not rated for pressure.

I don’t know if there are actual physical differences between them besides color and UV resistance.

I’m not so sure about your pressure comment…

Schedule 80 PVC pipe, which is usually grey, has a thicker sidewall and can withstand higher pressures than regular white Schedule 40 pipe. The actual pressure ratings are dependent on the pipe diameter..

https://parts.spearsmfg.com/so..._IPVC-1_T_IP05_T.pdf

I ran contractor grade garden hose along the top rail of my cyclone fence at least 15 years ago. Hung it with tye wraps (get UV resistant). Each connection site gives me the option of where I can hook up to so I put a gated y at each joint.
I blow it out each fall to prevent breakage from freezing.
Works great.

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Originally posted by smlsig:

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Most water pipe PVC needs to be covered or painted to protect it from UV. Pile mulch on it. 150’ is too long for good flow in 5/8”.

The gray electrical conduit PVC is UV resistant, but not rated for pressure.

I don’t know if there are actual physical differences between them besides color and UV resistance.

I’m not so sure about your pressure comment…

Schedule 80 PVC pipe, which is usually grey, has a thicker sidewall and can withstand higher pressures than regular white Schedule 40 pipe. The actual pressure ratings are dependent on the pipe diameter..

https://parts.spearsmfg.com/so..._IPVC-1_T_IP05_T.pdf

You’re a contractor, correct? Will gray pvc conduit pass a plumbing inspection? That’s what my comment is about. The printing on the pipe doesn’t list plumbing ratings like pressure and I believe won’t pass inspection if used for water.

Like I said, I don’t know if there are physical differences between plumbing PVC and conduit PVC that would make conduit PVC actually unacceptable for use as water pipe. I suspect there’s not, but really don’t know. If it’s just the printing on the pipe, then I’d use the conduit to run water in the OP’s case.

In my case, once my new 200’ dock is finished, I have to figure out how to run water to the far end of the dock. The water for my Dad’s dock is fed by 1/2” PEX from a Manabloc. He tapped off the hose bib the PEX feeds and ran 3/4” PVC under ground to the dock and then a 50’ hose. His pressure and flow are not good.