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Originally posted by TXJIM:



There is not another player on the field who absolutely sends it 100 times in a single game every time they play. So no other player on the field has to prepare their body to throw 100 times in a game at near max effort. There are hours per day spent on preparing for and then recovering from it. It is absolutely different.

I am teared up in sympathy for pitchers now.
No one else prepares like a pitcher - they are special.

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Originally posted by smschulz:

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Originally posted by TXJIM:



There is not another player on the field who absolutely sends it 100 times in a single game every time they play. So no other player on the field has to prepare their body to throw 100 times in a game at near max effort. There are hours per day spent on preparing for and then recovering from it. It is absolutely different.

I am teared up in sympathy for pitchers now.
No one else prepares like a pitcher - they are special.

I said they have a specialized job with particular physical demands that are unique among baseball positions. Did you have an actual rebuttal to this statement or did you fall back on being a sarcastic ass because you lack an actual point?

My point was pitching is unique compared to playing a position. Different training, required recovery time, etc…. Did anyone say they deserved sympathy, no. They are doing the job they signed up for and get paid to do.

The 3rd baseman gets paid to hit. Do you want to see him on the mound in the World Series with potentially important runners on base? By your logic, that there is nothing “special” about pitchers, that would be fine and he would be expected to get it done, right?

A good analogy for the pitcher is the goalkeeper in soccer. They are all specialists, most other positions in soccer could roughly play any other spot on the field (as in baseball, an outfielder could do a passable job as a 3rd baseman etc), but try to put one of those in as a pitcher or a goalkeeper and it will resemble chaos.

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Originally posted by reloader-1:
A good analogy for the pitcher is the goalkeeper in soccer. They are all specialists, most other positions in soccer could roughly play any other spot on the field (as in baseball, an outfielder could do a passable job as a 3rd baseman etc), but try to put one of those in as a pitcher or a goalkeeper and it will resemble chaos.

That speaks to the skill set but not the training and recovery. What most people don’t understand is that pitching a ball over 85 miles per hour is the fastest movement in human sports. When you get well above 90 mph as most are these days, the stresses are enormous. Peak angular joint velocity exceeding 7000 degree of rotation per second. While all ball players throw this hard occasionally, pitchers do it repeatedly. The analogy would be a commuter car engine vs a performance car engine. One hits 7,000 rpms on occasion and the other lives at that range for the bulk of its engine hours. These different demands require different design and different maintenance.

Another Braves HR..5-0

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Another Braves HR..5-0

now it's 6 - 0

where be that chop now? ALL over Atlanta - that's where!

Plenty in Tennessee chopping for them!

Braves win!!!!

Chop chop chop !

Woot!!!

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Originally posted by TXJIM:
Did you have an actual rebuttal to this statement or did you fall back on being a sarcastic ass because you lack an actual point?

My point was pitching is unique compared to playing a position.
Different training, required recovery time, etc…. Did anyone say they deserved sympathy, no.
They are doing the job they signed up for and get paid to do.

By your logic, that there is nothing “special” about pitchers, that would be fine and he would be expected to get it done, right?

Yeah, my "logic" is let them all play the way God intended it and stop the delusion started in 1973 by the AL.
The only reason it was done was not that the pitchers are so "special" but was done because by and large they are shitty hitters.
SO the AL took the strategy out of the game for the sake of some more runs.
The DH is an aberration not a revelation.
That's just a fact!

As a Cleveland Ohio man, born and raised, the Braves can get hosed.

What does being from Cleveland have to do with it?

Braves win! Cheaters lose! Go Eddie and The Cruisers!

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Congrats to the Atlanta Braves. The manager seems like a good man. What a career. Good for Freddie. One of the good ones. Lots or good stories on their team.

I feel for Dusty, but not for the Astro's.

Dusty was one of my childhood favorites. He played with flair. It is an interesting story. How Henry Aaron took him under his wing way back when.

Glad the Braves have the title.

My congrats to the World Series Champion Atlanta Braves. I didn't think they had the fire power to take the Astros, and they proved me and many others wrong big time. I also must admit to enjoying the fact that MLB stole the All Star game from Atlanta, and the World Series trophy will be going back to Atlanta. Hey Rob Manfred, I hope the irony there is terribly painful to ya.

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What does being from Cleveland have to do with it?

The 1995 loss to the Braves in game six along with the 1997 game 7 11th inning loss to the Marlins really hurt my feelings. I still remember the fans with their tomahawk chop. Can you still hear them, Clarice?

^^^ Baseball fans have a loooong memory.

Well the Mattress Man in Houston lost his $2 Million bet on the Astros. He was set to win $35M if they won.

Dusty is a good person. He was on deck when Hank Aaron hit his record home run. But he is a terrible post season manager. He now has the dubious record of most regular season manager wins with over 2,000 and no title. I’m a national league fan and ATL got a screw job by MLB this summer so screw em. I’m glad they won. I’m quite certain I heard a “let’s go Brandon” during the clubhouse celebration tonight when they were pouring beer and champagne on each other