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Originally posted by PHPaul:
It's not that I begrudge the fraction of a cent recharging the battery would cost, it's that I've been bitched at about turning stuff off since I was old enough to reach the light switch.

After 60-odd years, hard habit to break.

"Do not disturb" is a good idea, I'll do that. I'll also have to get into the habit of hooking up the USB cable in the morning to recharge it.

I work in IT. In that particular world you learn that computers do NOT like to be power cycled, and develop the habit of doing it as infrequently as absolutely necessary.

My smartphone is also a computer. I treat it accordingly.

The real question may just be “do you reall care when it was sent?” Respond if you feel like it.

Bob

I throw mine on the charger when they either hit 70% or I expect they will before morning. I try to make sure they never fall below 40%. They stay on the charger until I'm ready to use them.

I get pretty good lifetime out of my batteries, as a rule.

Btw: If you leave the charging wall wart(s) plugged in, you're not saving much in electricity by not having your device(s) on the charger.

I haven't used an Android phone in a while but thought this was an interesting question.

So how to get actual sent time for your text messages on an Android phone...

I hear tell from some friends that the Android App "SMS Sent Time" (which is supposedly free) will give you this info. Johannes Zweng is the app creator. Many people have evidently also had this problem.

(And I like the term "Frugal"...)

I charge my phones during the night, every night, no matter the % at the time. Having it be 100% charged when I start my day is what's most important.

Works fine for me. Never kept a phone long enough to care about long-term effect on the battery, I guess, but it seems to have no discernible effects in the first 2-3 years.

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Originally posted by DMF:

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

My iPhone shows the time originally sent, not the time that the message was received.

Hmmm... I know that I stated that correctly if the sender used an iPhone. I'm not positive, but I think it's also true if the sender used an Android.

I don't have two iPhones to try it with right now, but that's not true when an iPhone receives a text from an Android phone. I have a hard time believing it's true iPhone to iPhone, except maybe for that god awful iMessage system.

"that god awful great iMessage system" shows the sent time, not the received time. There are times, on my delivery route, when I am passing through the Florida swamp land on a back road. Nothing but shallow water and gators, no cell phone coverage. When I get in a coverage area, queued messages will pop up. Time stamps definitely show sent time. Example: My wife sends an iMessage when she is leaving her office. The time stamps on those messages always show what time she actually sent them, even if I receive them quite a bit later.

I have this same thing happen when I have the phone off or in airplane mode while on a plane.

If I need to know the time it was received on my phone (Samsung Galaxy S5) I can tap and hold on the message itself and another menu comes up. One of the options is "message info". In there it will have when the message was actually sent.

My previous phones all had this feature as well just in slightly different ways of accessing it.

This is what I do before bed, turn ringer to silent, make sure wifi is on for auto updates, set alarm if needed, plug in charger, place phone screen down. That way if I get a call or text, when the screen lights up, I don't get woke up... I work shift work, so I REALLY HATE to be woke up...

iMessage can show when messages are sent because the texts are routed to an Apple server that then distributes the message to all your devices like your MacBook and your iPad. It's not a true SMS text, but rather more like a messaging service. The server knows when it received the text, and will time stamp it for you. It's also the reason it knows whether the sender is on an iPhone or not--the iPhones communicate directly with the server using internet data when it can.

For greatest longevity of the battery, you basically just want to maintain the charge between 40 and 70 percent. It's like a sponge. A slightly damp sponge picks up juice the easiest, and easy is good for lithium batteries. At least at a theoretical level.

In practice, it's just simpler to plug the phone in before bed and sleep with it on with do not disturb activated. I start the day with a full phone and I can glance at my messages in the morning to decide if I can snooze for a few extra minutes before work. I also don't have to wait for the phone to boot up in case there is an emergency, and around here, emergency alerts can be pushed directly to your phone.

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Originally posted by 46and2:
I charge my phones during the night, every night, no matter the % at the time. Having it be 100% charged when I start my day is what's most important.

Works fine for me. Never kept a phone long enough to care about long-term effect on the battery, I guess, but it seems to have no discernible effects in the first 2-3 years.

This ^^^^
Left on and charging all night, every night. Me and the wife both. Have done this since cell phones were invented with no ill effects whatsoever, and that's with keeping a phone for up to 4 1/2 years with never a battery problem.

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Originally posted by PHPaul:
I realize I could just leave the phone on, but that just rubs my cheap ass the wrong way.

Does it run on diesel?

Do you turn off the Fridge, heater, water, heck just flip the main breaker to the house at bed time LOL

It's designed to be left on, I put mine on a iHome bedside charger/alarm clock every night, so it's fully charged in the AM, turning it off and on doesnt do much for battery life.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by PHPaul:
I realize I could just leave the phone on, but that just rubs my cheap ass the wrong way.

Does it run on diesel?

If you follow the trail back far enough, probably.

Actually, as interconnected as the power grid is these days, I have no idea. Fairly certain our electricity is generated in Canada.

Just so you know, even if the phone is on, sometimes texts don't arrive right away. I have had some show up a day or so later. Have been with Verizon forever, and sometimes they just don't seem to pump them out in real-time.

Just adding this by way of saying that while you are definitely more likely to get texts sooner if you have the phone on all night, it is no guarantee.

I run into the same issue with my Android.

I'm required to not have the phone on my body and physically turn the phone off while I'm working.

So it would be nice to know how current the message is when I power my phone up.

Just leave it on. Most devices have a do not disturb mode you can set to filter what sets off a notification.

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
iMessage can show when messages are sent because the texts are routed to an Apple server that then distributes the message to all your devices like your MacBook and your iPad. It's not a true SMS text, but rather more like a messaging service. The server knows when it received the text, and will time stamp it for you. It's also the reason it knows whether the sender is on an iPhone or not--the iPhones communicate directly with the server using internet data when it can.

Hangout is also a messaging service, can it do the same? I can't recall whether this is true as well for Hangout or not.

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Originally posted by TomV:
I run into the same issue with my Android.

I'm required to not have the phone on my body and physically turn the phone off while I'm working.

So it would be nice to know how current the message is when I power my phone up.

Just quit turning it off. It uses very little juice sitting there with the screen off.

I just plug my charger into every night and put it on do not distrub, so I start with 100% in the morning and am not bothered by texts or notifications. Have never had an iPhone stop working or have a short battery life, even though it is not recommended.

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Originally posted by 46and2:

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Originally posted by TomV:
I run into the same issue with my Android.

I'm required to not have the phone on my body and physically turn the phone off while I'm working.

So it would be nice to know how current the message is when I power my phone up.

Just quit turning it off. It uses very little juice sitting there with the screen off.

Not when you're in an area with a poor signal...

But if you leave it plugged in all night, it won't really matter in that case.