Delaware could be among the first states to use mobile driver's licenses.

The Delaware Division of Motor Vehicles has launched a mobile driver's license pilot study that will run for six months, according to a release from the Delaware Department of Transportation.

The six-month pilot study will include about 200 state employees and stakeholders.

“Delaware is among the first states to test a mobile driver’s license, and we’re excited to help move this new technology forward,” said Gov. John Carney said in the release.

Transportation Secretary Jennifer Cohan believes the pilot will help the state how mobile driver's licenses work in real-world scenarios.

"[They will] address any issues that arise as a result before we decide to fully adopt and implement this application for our more than 800,000 licensed drivers and ID card holders,” she said in the release.

The pilot is being run by both the Delaware DMV and IDEMIA, the company that produces the state’s physical driver's licenses and identification cards, according to the release.

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Features of the mDL that will be tested include:

• Enhanced privacy for age verification: No need to show a person’s address, license number and birthdate. The mobile driver's license will verify if the person is over 18 or 21 and display a photo.

• Law enforcement use during a traffic stop: The mobile driver's license will allow law enforcement officers to ping a driver’s smartphone to request their driver’s license information before walking to the vehicle.

• Business acceptance: Understanding how businesses that require identification or age verification interact with the mobile driver's license will be advantageous throughout the pilot study.

• Ease of Use: Ensuring the mobile driver's license is able to be presented to any organization without difficulty.

• Secure access: The mobile driver's license is unlocked and accessible only by the license holder. The mobile driver's license is accessed through an app on the owner’s smartphone and is opened/unlocked by entering a user-created PIN or facial recognition.

“It is our responsibility to always bring the best-in-class offerings to our state and an mDL holds the promise of offering an always-updated, secure credential that will be easy to use by our consumers, businesses and law enforcement,” Vien said in the release.

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Interesting, but if it can only be accessible by the owner, then how does:

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Law enforcement use during a traffic stop: The mobile driver's license will allow law enforcement officers to ping a driver’s smartphone to request their driver’s license information before walking to the vehicle.

That sounds like there is a way to access this thing without the owner and remotely. Now how an LEO would know the person has a smartphone and this mDriver’s License isn’t clear from the article. I’m guessing some sort of Bluetooth connection, but that doesn’t sound reliable either.

What if you don't own a phone?

and now they can more easily gather/track your gps information. Because you know that would be the next step if it isn't already thought of/implemented in the software.

If they asked me what the benefits of this app would be if I were to design it, that'd be one of 'em along with access to your phone history, sim card, etc...

yeah, not too keen on this idea. Since the info is basically open only to the govt - why would I do that?

This opens a whole new can of worms. If they pull you over, do they have the right to inspect your phone?

It could involve accessing maps programs, and others, sounds like rights violations to me.

Give it a few weeks and some hackers will have ways to ping phones like officers, copy all the data, and then display rotating identities on any phone they want.

Well isn't that special.

Not a chance I would do this willingly.

It all depends on how it's implemented.

You can lock down most things on your phone. On my iPhone, I can decide which Apps can use my GPS info, which have access to my contacts, etc.

If it pings and I have to respond to the ping myself on my phone and enter my password or fingerprint to send the info. I can also control what info it sends. Like just the same info on my DL, I might be ok with it.

Hackers don't need this need app to hack a phone. Phones can link through many different apps right now. Security is something people need to take care of themselves. Lockdown what you want on your phone.

If this can just randomly access my phone without my permission or any info on my phone then hell no but as an app where I can control the info isn't bad.

OK, so let me get this straight, we can't make a person show ID to vote because it's racist since black people are somehow unable to obtain a drivers license or ID card right? How the hell are all these people who can't even find a DMV or $10 for an ID card supposed to get a cell phone? Do you get a ticket if you leave your phone on kitchen counter top or at work and then get pulled over?

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
How the hell are all these people who can't even find a DMV or $10 for an ID card supposed to get a cell phone?

Obama phones.

Duh.

not only no, but hell no

brought to you by the state that gave us Uncle Joe Biden..

one more way to invade your privacy under the smoke screen of safety

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
OK, so let me get this straight, we can't make a person show ID to vote because it's racist since black people are somehow unable to obtain a drivers license or ID card right? How the hell are all these people who can't even find a DMV or $10 for an ID card supposed to get a cell phone? Do you get a ticket if you leave your phone on kitchen counter top or at work and then get pulled over?

I absolutely think this is the argument/angle that should be taken here.

Im dying over here!!

When we rolled out the laptop and printer to issue tickets, it was a shit show.....for or five years later...it was still a shit show

on paper it was supposed to be much quicker-until the printer craps the bed, then you gotta start all over on a citation book

the one I had worked half the time...

I finally went back to the tried and true low tech pen and book....worked every time. Just took the printer into the station and told the IT guy I found it in the back hallway.

I can see this tech not working, the extra costs of some kinda phone pinging device, the frustration of the officer and the driver...so may things that can go wrong just to be able to play on your phone.

No.

Police don't get to "ping" me to find out anything.

They get to ask, I get to respond. If I respond inappropriately, they get to arrest me, and we sort it out back at the station.

Privacy, people. Protect it.

Why not just have the cell phones ping the station, report that you busted the speed limit, ran the light, and made a number of illegal u-turns, have Central tote up the damage and deduct it from your bank acount, notify the insurance company, and put your license on hold?

It's just a test step before implanting the chip in your ass.

Delaware will, no doubt, do better securing this digital information than OPM did securing my security clearance information (which was a detailed account of who I am).

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Why not just have the cell phones ping the station, report that you busted the speed limit, ran the light, and made a number of illegal u-turns, have Central tote up the damage and deduct it from your bank acount, notify the insurance company, and put your license on hold?

Winner! Costs saving in reduced police force and a constant revenue stream. What is not to like.

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not only no, but hell no

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. Sometimes I don't have my phone with me. Mrs. M-11 never does if we're out together, even if she's driving. The potential abuse is strong with this one.