Ohhh, the stupidity at Harvard...



A Harvard graduate student was told she has to move out of her apartment after her roommates found her legally owned firearms “uncomfortable” and anxiety-inducing.

Leyla Pirnie, a 24-year-old Alabama native, told the Washington Free Beacon that she felt roommates violated her privacy after searching her room without her consent and then confronting her over gun ownership.

“When I asked them why they were in my room to begin with, they each came up with completely contradicting stories (none of which made any sense), but one comment struck me in particular: ‘We saw that you had a MAGA hat and, come on, you're from Alabama… so we just kind of assumed that you had something,'” she said.

“I asked why they didn't just call me and ask me before intruding. One of the girls responded that fear took over her body and she felt compelled to search my room until she found proof. … I cannot make this up.”

This prompted her roommates to contact the landlord of the apartment, with one saying the presence of firearms makes others uncomfortable.

“We discussed with Leyla that all of us are uncomfortable with having firearms in the house, and that their presence causes anxiety and deprives us of the quiet enjoyment of the premise to which we are entitled,” one roommate wrote in an email obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

Dave Lewis, president of Avid Management, then asked Pirnie to vacate the premises, despite the authorities’ assurances that she complied with all gun-ownership laws.

“Since it's clear that Leyla wants to keep her firearms, it would be best for all parties if she finds another place to live,” Lewis wrote in an email.

Pirnie told the outlet that she tried to reason with the roommates, saying she was a legal gun owner and was trained to handle the firearms, but the roommates were more concerned about someone else using the guns.

“Nobody has bothered to question, ‘Well, why do you want to have protection? Could it be because you've experienced something where you need to protect yourself as you see fit?'” she said, noting that she was in a physically abusive relationship in the past. “I have a real and legitimate reason as to why I want to protect myself.”

The student and her father tried to defuse the situation and rejected Lewis’ request to move out of the apartment, but the property manager insisted his request had nothing to do with politics and was strictly practical.

He went on to warn Pirnie that if others move out, she will be responsible for paying their rent, according to the Washington Free Beacon.

Pirnie said the whole incident violated both privacy and rights, saying it “doesn’t seem right” that she has to bear the burden for her roommates’ feelings.

“Not only is this a blatant violation of my privacy, but it's also a violation of my rights,” she said.



https://www.foxnews.com/us/har...rearms-uncomfortable

I do not know if she would prevail, but she should sue for damages that are reasonable and permissible.

And when is it required, under the tenants of the 2nd amendment, that one need give reason of the decision to protect and defend oneself, or to keep and bear arms?

Any person with an IQ above mud should be able to understand if only 2 people were on this planet, it would constitute a "threat" to both.

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I do not know if she would prevail, but she should sue for damages that are reasonable and permissible.

Couldn't agree more! Seems like a ripe opportunity for some badly needed push-back.

I see a bright future for this young lady.
She's most likely a way above average student and has a bit of common sense, even after being immersed in lunacy of Harvard and Massachusetts.
She appears to have followed the law to a T and will get a lot of publicity out of this, if she wants it.
The only criticism I can find is that she left this unsecured firearm where some truly looney people could find it. Thank God, nobody was harmed, other than their feelings.

If it were me, I'd call the cops and have them all arrested for burglary.

I'm certainly not siding with the roommates but I doubt that the student body at Harvard are overwhelmingly supportive fans of the Second Amendment. If roommates strongly dislike and fear firearms and if they can walk in her room and find them, the guns are not very secure. My late brother was in Federal Law Enforcement for 27 years. When he and his wife visited her sister and husband, the husband was very assertive that he didn't want any guns in his house. Very few of us on this forum can understand this type of thinking but we can't ignore the fact that it is out there. "The gun is like a snake and may attack at any moment" type of ignorance.

hopefully this will lead to yet another well-deserved black eye for Harvard - never a place for higher education - more like socialist indoctrination

its downtown Boston - certainly not the center of democracy

Seems to me the landlord is breaking conditions written in the lease. Girl needs an Attorney, now.

And, yes she has a bright future.

This is totally FUBAR.

Especially when the landlord states if others move out due to her having firearms, she would have to pay the cost.

Especially others invading her rooms without her consent.

My goodness, what if she had drawn on them if she was there when they intruded and told them GTFO!

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
I do not know if she would prevail, but she should sue for damages that are reasonable and permissible....

In Massachussetts? I would be "pick me up off the floor" shocked if any NAZI judge would rule in her favor. I am really surprised she is allowed to have a gun at all in that police state.



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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
hopefully this will lead to yet another well-deserved black eye for Harvard - never a place for higher education - more like socialist indoctrination

its downtown Boston - certainly not the center of democracy

It doesn't really sound like it has anything to do with Harvard, the issue is with the property management company that runs her apartment building.

It seems with every passing year this country is headed towards some kind of split. Half the population doesn’t seem to even want to live in proximity to the other let alone interact.

Her chances of prevailing in a Mass. court is likely to be slim.

It is interesting to see the discrimination towards someone from Alabama. That statement from her roommate certainly did not sound PC.

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Originally posted by GWbiker:
Seems to me the landlord is breaking conditions written in the lease. Girl needs an Attorney, now.

^^^This. Unless that lease has some (as yet unidentified) firearms provisions, I'm thinking the landlord is open to a big legal challenge. However, the comments of the roommates simply solidify my belief that the next generation is utterly worthless as a whole. And a Harvard degree is going to do nothing to change that reality.

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Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
Especially when the landlord states if others move out due to her having firearms, she would have to pay the cost.

Not quite what he said. A better summary would be he has a lease and whomever stays is responsible for 100% of the payment to him.

Most big cities are a bitch to find a good place so if I were her I'd stay and let the two intolerant hoplophobes move out. Given her 15 minutes of fame she shouldn't have trouble finding 2 roomies that aren't hoplophobes.

And, preferably, who don't feel entitled to wander into her room and search her possessions.

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Originally posted by tatortodd:

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Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
Especially when the landlord states if others move out due to her having firearms, she would have to pay the cost.

Not quite what he said. A better summary would be he has a lease and whomever stays is responsible for 100% of the payment to him.

Most big cities are a bitch to find a good place so if I were her I'd stay and let the two intolerant hoplophobes move out. Given her 15 minutes of fame she shouldn't have trouble finding 2 roomies that aren't hoplophobes.

I agree, she should stay and the losers can go if they are uncomfortable.

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roommates found her legally owned firearms “uncomfortable” and anxiety-inducing.

Fucking millenials

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In Florida, the provision for keeping a "loaded firearm" secured in a locked container, is relevant if and when a minor may otherwise encounter an unsecured loaded firearm.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Sta...ctions/0790.174.html



contrast to Mass. where any firearm, even unloaded must be locked in a secured container anytime it is "untended".

https://malegislature.gov/Laws...apter140/Section131L


If "authorities" state she was following all laws, (and the law states, "secured", then I assume secured from the report) she should at least contact a lawyer and find if she has a decent case for co-tenant B&E.

Mass law states for misdemeanor B&E without force up to 6 mo jail.

And what arfmel sez!

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“We discussed with Leyla that all of us are uncomfortable with having firearms in the house, and that their presence causes anxiety and deprives us of the quiet enjoyment of the premise to which we are entitled,” one roommate wrote in an email obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

LOL - how many lawyers and hours did it take to craft this?

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LOL - how many lawyers and hours did it take to craft this?

It is just Harvard speak. They all talk like that.