WARNING VERY GRAPHIC IMAGES!

This is what happens to a person who is 'suspected' of stealing a handbag. The area CoP simply noted the application of mob justice...

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CloNg_1547794532

In case you don't want to witness what black South Africans can do to another black South African, they set him on fire and watch him burn to death on a street.

I have seen it live in both east and west Africa....while it is effective it is not pleasant to be near...the smell of diesel, rubber and flesh sticks with you.

S. Africa is fucked

I haven’t followed the state of affairs in South Africa very closely other than what I read here, but that’s the sort of thing that happens when the people believe they must take matters into their own hands because of ineffective government, and therefore ineffective policing. This incident reminds me of the one in Brazil that showed a victim playing catch-up and then some on a guy who tried to rob him by repeatedly kicking him in the head after he was incapacitated. As for SA, isn’t that the part of the world where the expression “Goodyear necklace”* came from?

* Trussing someone up with a tire around his neck and then setting it on fire.

The Boers better arm themselves.

Heavily.

What a horrible way to die.

Winnie Mandela‘s bunch would put an old car tire over a tied-up opponent, and set it on fire. What a gruesome, despicable practice.

Then look what happened to the black folks in Rhodesia after the western liberals conspired to overthrow Ian Smith’s government.

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
Winnie Mandela‘s bunch would put an old car tire over a tied-up opponent, and set it on fire.

There was also gasoline in the tire for effect.

If the Caucasian and what was referred to as Coloured (primarily those with ancestors from the Indian subcontinent) South Africans become the target of too much violence at the hands of the aboriginal (dark skinned) South Africans, on of two things will happen:

1. An unprecedented flight of capital, intelligence, and learning that will leave South Africa in a perfect condition for the Chinese to step in and take over. The Chinese will do jackshit for the vast majority of those South Africans who the seizure of capital and property from Caucasian South Africans was intended to help.

2. Open rebellion where the Caucasian and Coloured South Africans fight to the death. I say to the death because every other nation will refuse them aid or asylum. The Chinese will step in afterward to seize the vast mineral wealth

Beginning?

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
I haven’t followed the state of affairs in South Africa very closely other than what I read here, but that’s the sort of thing that happens when the people believe they must take matters into their own hands because of ineffective government, and therefore ineffective policing.

Yup.
This isn't unique to South Africa or, anywhere else in the world where there's distrust & general cynicism of govt. In this country, citizens may well start taking the law into their own hands as issues like theft and assault become minimized/accepted by activist DA's as 'survival crimes' are allowed and crime is decriminalized.

What we see here is the contrast between two cultures relative to justice. One culture uses due process in court with standardized, humane punishment while the other uses mob justice with no due process and reflexive punishment. One system is civilized while the other is base and animal. This baseness is what is in store for South Africa. This is where the culture is headed to stay. Apartheid was exclusionary and unjust, but what we see here is worse, far worse.

Savages. When all the white South Africans leave - or are forced out - the remainder of the country will devolve to an even shittier version of Afghanistan. Complete with warlords. Regards 18DAI

There’s literally hundreds of videos like this on the internet from Africa involving women, men, boys being set on fire for witchcraft or for some reason or another...usually mob mentality crap.

Those are just the ones posted to the net...so it probably happens way more often than people think.

If you feel like getting sick, go on bestgore.com and you’ll want to nuke the whole continent.

They’re brutal savages.

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1. An unprecedented flight of capital, intelligence, and learning that will leave South Africa in a perfect condition for the Chinese to step in and take over. The Chinese will do jackshit for the vast majority of those South Africans who the seizure of capital and property from Caucasian South Africans was intended to help.

The money part has been happening for years but is now accelerating.

https://www.moneyweb.co.za/mon...ing-along-with-jobs/

Tragic data shows capital fleeing along with jobs

South Africa attracts far less fixed investment as a percentage of GDP than any other emerging market.

According to data from the UN Conference on Trade and Development (Unctad) for 2017, South Africa was the third biggest exporter of capital as a percentage of GDP in the world.

Foreign direct investment (FDI) is an investment made by a firm or individual located in one country into business interests in another. Generally, FDI takes place when an investor establishes foreign business operations or acquires foreign business assets, such as a controlling interest in a foreign company. FDI is distinguished from portfolio investments in which an investor merely purchases equity in foreign-based companies.

FDI is a vital part of overall fixed investment (investments into actual land, buildings, machines and inventory). It is a long-term investment and a good indicator of confidence in a developing country.

Fixed investment has had the closest relationship with job creation in the formal sector in South Africa since 1967. In larger developing countries, FDI makes up well over 35% of investment stock.

Net FDI is simply the difference between what the home country receives in fixed investments from foreign countries and what it invests in other countries. Almost all countries ‘import’ and ‘export’ fixed investment.

Only the tax havens of Luxembourg and the Netherlands exported more net FDI as a percentage of GDP than South Africa.

South Africa has larger outward fixed-investment stock as a percentage of GDP than Switzerland. That means it exports more fixed investment to other countries than Switzerland does.

South Africa is the lone emerging market economy in the world’s largest net exporters of FDI. Of 157 countries analysed, only 22 are net exporters of fixed direct investment. Only four are emerging markets, and some of these are at war, which encourages capital flight.

Even Zimbabwe has more net FDI than South Africa – mainly by South African firms – but that story we leave for another day.

Emerging markets have an average net foreign fixed investment stock of 12% of GDP, while developed markets are the main exporters of fixed investment. The world is of course neutral, but suffice to say that generally big exporters of capital are rich countries with a high standard of living that are looking to diversify their investments, export their technology and so on.

In US dollars, South Africa is the ninth-largest net exporter of FDI at $120.3 billion (R1.7 trillion as at the end of 2017).

The country has more net outward FDI stock (fixed capital stock) than Finland, Norway and Ireland combined.

This from a country that had the highest unemployment rate in the world in 2017.

FDI is one of the most important factors in creating jobs in many countries and governments fall over themselves to attract it.

The above is not a quick survey or a spreadsheet by a think tank. It represents real money flows and investments into productive investment. The labour numbers come from the International Labour Organisation. These are hard numbers from the real economy.

Foreign fixed investment is an investment in real companies, buildings, technology, and jobs. The lack of foreign fixed investment translates into real job losses and impoverishes real people by the millions. Yes, it takes profits home, but it allows our firms the opportunity to compete at home against some of the best. It enhances skills and productivity.

Fixed investment flows from developed countries to emerging markets where economies attract capital in the form of fixed investment due to higher growth and expectations of growth.

Using the average emerging market as a measure (average is taken as 12% of GDP as calculated), SA should have had R2.2 trillion in extra fixed investments by the end of 2017.

Measured as a percentage of South Africa’s total fixed investment stock of R11.2 trillion, this would imply about 20% more capital.

Assuming that the capital and labour ratio stays the same, this would have meant about 3.1 million more jobs. The net foreign investment stock is hard data collected by Unctad as well as the South African Reserve Bank. Other international bodies show similar declines and comparable trends.

However, this is private sector fixed investment we are talking about. The R2.2 trillion would have been about 32% more at private-sector level. Using the same capital/labour ratio assumption, the number of jobs in the private sector would have been 4.5 million more. That means SA would have halved the unemployment numbers from close to 10 million to about five million. (State-owned enterprises are also investing outside of SA, which is also a source of concern as others see this too.)

But as SA had a high point of 24% of GDP, the job-creation numbers could have been higher. Also, remember that much of the foreign direct investment came about due to headquarters shifting from Johannesburg or Cape Town to London or Amsterdam.

Anglo American, SA Breweries/SABMiller, Investec, and Steinhoff are still some of the biggest investors in SA, but these multinationals were ‘built’ in South Africa.

There is nothing wrong with companies looking for new opportunities – it’s just that ever since the days of sanctions, South Africa has not had a great track record in attracting foreign firms (other than in the subsidised motor manufacturing industry).

Unnecessary unemployment

Adding the old South African companies that became foreign companies into the mix means that the ‘missing’ net foreign fixed investment stock is closer to R4 trillion today. If South Africa attracted more FDI and kept its homegrown firms here, the country may have had an unemployment rate about a third of today’s number!

Next time someone asks why only three of every 10 adults have jobs in the formal sector, ask what their country did to scare investment and jobs away. In total, only four out of 10 adults are employed in this country – including domestic workers and the informal sector.

The result of the outflow of FDI is the 10 million unemployed who are the real victims of this tragedy.

Our general economic welfare in the form of less income, higher crime, and massive unemployment can in large part be blamed on this.

This should be the only election issue – jobs, and why we have 10 million people in the unemployment line.

Mike Schüssler is chief economist at Economists.co.za.

An amendment to the Firearms Control Act surfaced a couple of months ago. There was a quick mealy-mouth denial by the govt. but under this proposal self-defence will no longer be considered a valid reason to own a firearm. So we wait and see how this pans out.

Interesting and informative posts, sigamt. Thank you.

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An amendment to the Firearms Control Act surfaced a couple of months ago. There was a quick mealy-mouth denial by the govt. but under this proposal self-defence will no longer be considered a valid reason to own a firearm. So we wait and see how this pans out.

No need to wait and see. We know what history teaches. Eventually private gun ownership will be illegitimate; then the real suffering will begin. Were I of the wrong demographic living in SA, I would leave ASAP.

Anybody with any means or brains started getting out 40 years ago if it took you a while to see the writing in the wall, for the last few years the billboard is now in your front yard. The money and brain drain and anybody else that cares about their future or their kids has or should be making plans on bailing SA pronto.

SigAmt- please post more often on state of affairs there. Stay safe friend

We're quick to forget our own history of drowning witches, hangings, etc when we see those images.

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We're quick to forget our own history of drowning witches, hangings, etc when we see those images.

What’s your point? It’s 2019...