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| Little ray of sunshine  |
I am not saying the computer won't be able to write the actual code. But the creative work of imagining what new program is needed or would be useful or whatever will not likely be done by computers any time very soon. Look at something like a video game - there is a lot of creative work there that a computer will not be able to do for some time. How would a computer know we need a game to simulate WWII flight combat? The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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I use ChatGPT to assist me in writing code/scripts. It is not to the point of replacing me yet, but that day may come. AI can be a useful tool to someone that knows the job to be done. Give me a hammer and nails and you will get nothing in return. Also, the AI replacing humans thing is very similar to outsourcing jobs. It can be tough. Have you ever seen code written by outsourced labor? It is adequate with no imagination. I thank God every day that my job can't be outsourced and can't be connected to the internet if you know what I mean. Beagle lives matter. ______ (\ / @\_____ / ( ) /O / ( )______/ ///_____/ | |||
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| Big Stack |
Maybe not so much. Brick laying robots below. And this is a few years old now. They've probably gotten better. I just put this out to say things you may not think can be automated, can be. And a lot of this was not AI based. Add AI to the robotic systems and capabilities go way up.
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 "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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| Ignored facts still exist |
Which brings up the legal question of who owns the rights (IP) for that code? Is it you since you asked GPT to do it, or is it GPT, who made the code / script in the first place. Seems like no big deal, but trust me, layers of lawyers are working through this at this very moment. . | |||
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^ I also used it to write 20 journal entries from the point of view of Romeo for my daughter. I asked ChatGPT if these entries were unique and it replied that it could make infinite variations that are not traceable. So unless ChatGPT is storing it's output, as far as I can see, it's thanks for the free homework. Beagle lives matter. ______ (\ / @\_____ / ( ) /O / ( )______/ ///_____/ | |||
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All machines break, stop, or malfunction. People with training and experience are required to diagnose and repair them. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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There isn’t a large enough base of real world training data to train an AI robot to act in that manner. | |||
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Lawyers have been pursuing "copyright" issues in software for a very long time with varying success. The problem is all code has evolved from Hello World and it's damn hard to prove it hasn't. Good luck to attorneys pursuing copyright shit cuz I can and have written code that exactly mimics copyrighted code and it doesn't come close to copying. | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
When I started a job as a Master Scheduler, an old timer said there used to be 15 people in our department doing a quarter of the amount of products being managed by the 3 people at the time. The good news is that AI doesn't get paid and can't spend money on the things that are marketed to humans. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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Obligatory "not a lawyer" warning. It is not clear to me whether code will be treated the same way, but the courts (in the US, at least) have already decided that AI art is not copyrightable. Paraphrasing here, and the details may not be exactly right, but the decision is based on the idea that a thing is copyrightable because it is the direct output of human creativity and skill. The court decided that writing the text prompt and having the AI model produce the image didn't count. This is in line with other past non-AI decisions on copyrightability. E.g., there was a court case over whether photographs produced when a chimpanzee was handling a camera and pushed the shutter button could be copyrighted or not (the decision was that the images could not be copyrighted). | |||
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I have some background in the Computer Science field of software synthesis (loosely: describe a program and have the computer write the code for it). This has been an active research field for 50+ years. From the standpoint of how difficult a problem software synthesis is (really, REALLY difficult), an AI language model like ChatGPT being able to do an OK job of writing little code snippets is an impressive accomplishment. However, any real software system has a huge number of constraints on structure, inputs/outputs, interfaces to other pieces of code, behavior, etc., not to mention countless internal interactions between different parts of the code base that can produce unexpected results. Even with a code-writing AI *FAR* beyond what is available today, you would still have to communicate those constraints and behaviors to the AI in an unambiguous way and then confirm that the generated code actually met the requirements. Writing an unambiguous software specification is also a hard problem, and it is effectively just a different programming language based on a different underlying abstraction. | |||
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For the WIN. Ron White strikes again, that was good. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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That statement would be a good take off point regarding emergent properties in complex systems. My understanding is the field of phyisics addresses it, and we know it exists in certain mechanical and software systems. I don't know enough to discuss it however. But if anyone does, please speak. The Terminator movies a case in point. Fantasy yes, but there are lots of examples in physics and engineering and probably biology and maybe other fields that exhibit this type of behvior. Richard Feynman said the best of physics is an approximation, particularly as complexity increases in systems. Very interesting stuff. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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My understanding is Wendy’s is planning on testing an AI Chatbot out as an order taker in their drive-thrus. Cleveland area, I think. It was on Varney this morning. ———- Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for thou art crunchy and taste good with catsup. | |||
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Certified All Positions |
There are so many, so many jobs that AI and automation could potentially replace. The upside? Humans do more important jobs. The downside? Dumb or lazy humans are now a financial burden. If you do something that is just sitting in front of a computer, or a stationary production.... get ready. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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eh-TEE-oh-clez |
Yes. Can confirm that this is currently a big deal. | |||
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I can see newscasters, the ones behind a desk, being replaced, but not the reporters in the field. Just a matter of creating a format that viewers would accept. | |||
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| Run Silent Run Deep  |
Those are the ones we will use for the crackers. _____________________________ Pledge allegiance or pack your bag! The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher Spread my work ethic, not my wealth | |||
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Never mind replacing human jobs. When will it start committing major crimes? ______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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