I had an interesting conversation this morning with one of my doctors during an appt. He brought up the subject of covid, saying it was still active. I asked him if there was a conventional vaccine for it that was NOT an mRNA. He said there was not. I asked him if he trusted that technology, he said he did not, and that a hospital he used for treating his patients forced him to lose his privileges there because he refused the shot. I thought that was pretty amazing to hear that. This doc ain't a regular type doc, he's highly respected in his specialty, and runs a good size practice independently. I happened to discover him after getting repeatedly ill with my previous specialist, and he's kept me well going on prob 5 years now.

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Originally posted by tleddy:
Likely the primary cause of the spread of Ebola is the African tradition of washing and touching the remains. No better way to contact body fluids that, at death, are at the highest viral concentration.

Even though the vector is well known, distrust of governments prevents changing the tradition.

My unqualified opinion is that the reported number of cases and deaths from Ebol are vastly underestimated, not counting those outside of major metropolitan centers. That, and my trust in the veracity of African politicians is very poor!

Bottom line-don’t go to Africa; also be circumspect about allowing persons from high incidence of disease countries to come to America.

So, by messing with the remains without precautions, then the Ebola virus is somehow carried in the bodies. So maybe lots of people are carriers but are not, somehow, sick ?

Do they serve monkey and bat in restaurants ? Salads, Entres, Bushmeat... What the hell.

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So, by messing with the remains without precautions, then the Ebola virus is somehow carried in the bodies. So maybe lots of people are carriers but are not, somehow, sick ?

I was specifically referring to those bodies dying from Ebola, implicitly mentioning that the highest concentration of virus is in those that died from the disease.

Considering the extended families and friends, a single infected body could infect dozens of others!

I will research whether it is possible to be infected but not get sick and be a carrier, a condition I highly doubt!

Can't believe its Ebola season already and I still have my Hantavirus decorations up.

"...something, something, chest... something, something, head..."

I stand corrected, sort of… they get sick, recover, but still harbor the virus:

There is no true asymptomatic lifelong Ebola carrier in the Mary Mallon sense. But Ebola can persist for months to years in “immune-privileged” body sites of survivors who appear fully recovered, and these survivors have repeatedly seeded new outbreaks — sometimes years later. Epidemiologists sometimes informally call these cases “Ebola Marys,” though the formal term is persistent infection or relapse-driven transmission.

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whether it is possible to be infected but not get sick and be a carrier,

They say up to 1/3 of those with the flu are asymptomatic.

Covid may be 20% to 40%.

Ebola should be similar.

WCCPHD wins this thread!

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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whether it is possible to be infected but not get sick and be a carrier,

They say up to 1/3 of those with the flu are asymptomatic.

Covid may be 20% to 40%.

Ebola should be similar.

Should be ? Based on... what, specifically...

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WCCPHD wins this thread!

I second that nomination... Ha !!

I thought we were all still dead from the last Ebola outbreak.

Ebola is a hemorrhagic fever filovirus (EHF - with six variants, two of which are only transmitted as far as we know to non-human primates). Like Marburg and other HF viruses, is essentially transmitted by contact with some exceptions. Its incubation is from a few days to just under a month, and the CFR (Case Fatality Rate) averages around 50%, but can be lower in local populations, or up to 90% reported in some areas. The average CFR for COVID 19 was 1%, and never exceeded 7% as a global average. Let that sink in.

If you contract Ebola and are symptomatic, there's a 50-50 chance statistically that you will die, depending on treatment timing and species. In that statistic, 50% recover and develop antibodies, possibly lasting in the system for a decade, although there's not sufficient research to indicate you are completely protected from reinfection, or won't infect others. The saving grace for Ebola (so far) is its transmission mode, which limits it largely to defined geographic areas, but it remains among the most dangerous viruses in the wild. And of course, viruses can mutate.

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Buttpox was supposed to be right after Covids.

Guess there weren't that many patients having sex with monkeys?