It started with a nice gesture. Adam Anderson, the CEO of Innovex Downhole Solutions, wanted to buy his employees a Christmas gift. So he ordered 400 North Face jackets and asked that their corporate logo be included.
Then came the bad news. The North Face company would sell Innovex the jackets but wouldn't include the energy company's logo. The reason? Innovex was an oil and gas company, and it would be a bad thing for North Face's public image to associate itself with the industry.
This essay recently appeared in Newsweek Magazine. As you’ll read, The North Face is just another hypocritical virtue signaling piece of shit that depends on the oil and gas industry to make its products, transport its customers to ski areas and other outdoor recreation destinations to use their clothing, and fuel their multiple corporate jets. Good piece of writing.
I've started a list of websites in my Favorites titled "No - Traitors" to contain a list of websites I will not patronize given their socio-politics hypocritical positions and in light of numerous other business alternatives to patronize. NF has the dubious honor of being first on the list.
I will keep this list forever as reminder. I will never forget.
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March 23, 2021, 06:05 PM
TMats
Interesting about the duplication. I didn’t even bother to do a search because of the dateline on the Newsweek essay—-3/16/21, and I knew nothing had been posted since then.
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March 23, 2021, 06:46 PM
Graniteguy
TNF - the most overpriced, overrated, mediocre POSER apparel available today.
March 23, 2021, 08:13 PM
Jimbo Jones
2nd place has to go to Patagonia
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March 23, 2021, 08:20 PM
tiwimon
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo Jones: 2nd place has to go to Patagonia
Indeed, I only have one Patagonia item anymore and certainly won’t ever buy from them or TNF.
Hoping Columbia isn’t on a list because I’m keen to Columbia stuff
March 23, 2021, 08:29 PM
SPWAMike0317
There was a time when TNF made high quality gear in the US. That time has long passed. Attempting to take the moral high ground while making products in Bangladesh is bullshit. One of many companies that was started by good people, acquired by corporations and attempting to conduct business on the foundations of it's founders.
Let me help you out. Which way did you come in?
March 24, 2021, 01:47 AM
bald1
quote:
Originally posted by tiwimon:
Hoping Columbia isn’t on a list because I’m keen to Columbia stuff
I'm with you here.
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March 24, 2021, 07:35 AM
Graniteguy
quote:
Originally posted by bald1:
quote:
Originally posted by tiwimon:
Hoping Columbia isn’t on a list because I’m keen to Columbia stuff
I'm with you here.
Columbia is left-leaning and the CEO spoke out several times against Trump and some of his policies, but they have not allowed themselves to be over-run by the WOKE and Cancel culture. (not yet anyway)
March 24, 2021, 07:49 AM
gearhounds
The stuff the NF cranks out now is absolute garbage. It’s been that way for well over a decade. They went from premium expedition gear to substandard apparel more suited to a night on the town advertising their garbage. I’ve passed on their newer jackets at thrift stores just because of their stance and their quality being no better than Avalanche, Free Country, or any other generic b-rate gear.
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March 24, 2021, 08:02 AM
holdem
Don't forget that TNF is owned by parent company VF. You might as well include all companies under the VF umbrella; https://www.vfc.com
March 24, 2021, 08:16 AM
pedropcola
I hate their stance as well but you should recognize they make some quality gear and they make lower quality “fashion” gear.
I’ve got some NF stuff that is the equal of anything I’ve ever purchased. I wouldn’t trade their Patrol ski gloves for anything else. As for being made overseas, while I hate that, plenty of overseas products are superior to US made. It’s tough to make blanket statements like US made is better. Yes it is better for America but it’s not necessarily better quality. There are plenty of products that destroy that mantra quality wise.
So many companies are going woke it is getting tough to buy gear from anyone politically aligned with me. And I could never watch a movie again. Ever. At this point I reserve my cancel culture for especially egregious events. Not selling jackets to that oil company is dumb as shit but is it worse than Coke? Or almost every major American company out there? I might end up having to sew my own clothes together. Lol
March 24, 2021, 08:26 AM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by holdem: Don't forget that TNF is owned by parent company VF. You might as well include all companies under the VF umbrella; https://www.vfc.com
No problems. I don't even know who these companies are, except Timberland. And, the only reason I know about TNF is my best friend gave me a jacket for Christmas a few years back.
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March 24, 2021, 08:50 AM
TMats
I’m going to guess that philosophically, Arc’teryx is little different from the companies being discussed in this thread. I can tell you though that I saw a lot of their outerwear on the men in Special Forces that trained on my ranger district. They can wear whatever they want and they often chose Arc’teryx
I’ll add that it could well be true that they were serving as field testers for the company.This message has been edited. Last edited by: TMats,
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March 24, 2021, 09:25 AM
golddot
quote:
Originally posted by konata88: I've started a list of websites in my Favorites titled "No - Traitors" to contain a list of websites I will not patronize given their socio-politics hypocritical positions and in light of numerous other business alternatives to patronize. NF has the dubious honor of being first on the list.
konata would you share it with us?
I will keep this list forever as reminder. I will never forget.
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March 24, 2021, 09:39 AM
12131
Here's a website that lists leftist companies that someone posted on here last year.
Companies will increasingly do this, because the customers they care about most (think young) will demand it. They'll accept that older, whiter people may shun their brand if they can get the youngins' who'll be brand loyal for decades. They'll also consider it likely that the older, whiter buyers will still buy, because
A). They don't care enough B). If all the brands are doing the same thing (which is likely) they'll have to buy something.
March 24, 2021, 11:09 AM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by TMats: I’m going to guess that philosophically, Arc’teryx is little different from the companies being discussed in this thread. I can tell you though that I saw a lot of their outerwear on the men in Special Forces that trained on my ranger district. They can wear whatever they want and they often chose Arc’teryx
I’ll add that it could well be true that they were serving as field testers for the company.
I don't think you can guess at Arc'teryx' politics from the fact that elite soldiers like it. They like it because they make very-high quality gear, and gear with the reputation of being very high quality. Google for Arc'teryx' political views - that information is readily available. It is certainly vocally pro-environmental conservation. Other political stands are easy to find online.
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